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Old 07-10-2012, 10:28 AM   #1
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Are the air conditioners in ther Entegra "quiet"

like on the new Monaco products?
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:47 AM   #2
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Now, after saying that, my friend and neighbor has a brand new Monaco and my acs are about the same noise level on the inside of the coach as his are. Just my opinion. Of course, if you open up the grate on the bedroom ac and dump all the air in there that one is a little noisier. If you are concerned about night noise, run the two front acs and shut the bedroom one off at night and it will be very quiet in the bedroom.
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Find one in a showroom and measure the sound level.
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We are worried at the "day noise" while sitting in the living room. I'm going to head down to Lazy Days and compare. That is a big feature to us..

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Now, after saying that, my friend and neighbor has a brand new Monaco and my acs are about the same noise level on the inside of the coach as his are. Just my opinion. Of course, if you open up the grate on the bedroom ac and dump all the air in there that one is a little noisier. If you are concerned about night noise, run the two front acs and shut the bedroom one off at night and it will be very quiet in the bedroom.
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They arent loud enough to drown out the moans of extasy from the wife if thats what you are talking about....
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Bee, too much sharing!!

The units are not particularly quiet, about average. I don't know about the Monoco but the Mountain Aire is quieter.
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They are quieter than the Allegro Bus. Tiffins vents are smaller so you get more air velocity through them, which results in more noise. Entegra's ducts are larger, therefore quieter. Can't speak for Monaco though.
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I did my comparison yesterday on noise on installed air conditioners. I spent 20 minutes going into four different brands and cranking up the air conditioners

It seems that on the 2013 Aspire at least, Entegra is still using the cheaper method of ducting, and that causes the noise.

What they have done is what every travel trailer/5th wheel, and motorhome in the past have done. One intake per air conditioner unit, mounted directly below the air conditioner on the ceiling. You can tell this just by looking at the ceiling, right below the air conditioner. If you have the square 2 foot by 2 foot grill, with the slider that dumps all the cooler air in that area, you have the cheaper (non-ducted intake) one.

What Tiffen, Monaco and others have done, is to install air INTAKES (or returns, as they are called) throughout the ceiling, instead of the large 2 x 2 white grill. This makes more sense, a bit more expensive, but contributes to a MUCH quieter interior air conditioner experience. The air intake noise and the noise from the compresser itself is reduced quite a bit.

The difference is quite noticeable.

I, for one, am disappointed that Entegra went this way. They boast about a quiet coach, but fail to quiet the air conditioners as many other have done and create excessive noise while driving down the road in this heat...


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They are quieter than the Allegro Bus. Tiffins vents are smaller so you get more air velocity through them, which results in more noise. Entegra's ducts are larger, therefore quieter. Can't speak for Monaco though.
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Well, Tiffin has used the more expensive ducting of both supply and return airs. I've always considered them extremely quiet, so if Cruz says the Entegra is quieter, it appears they've figured out a way to improve sound dampening. I would love to see a posting of actual dB levels of each coach.
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I did my comparison yesterday on noise on installed air conditioners. I spent 20 minutes going into four different brands and cranking up the air conditioners
Did you check a Dutch Star, Mountain Aire, Essex or King Aire by any chance?
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The Cornerstone that I recently did an article on was very quiet. An Anthem I drove last year was also quiet. I didn't get a chance to run the A/C in an Aspire, but will this September when I do a review on the new floor plan. Also, can't speak to the Newmar. Again, that'll be in September.

Tiffin runs two continuous ducts the length of the coach. The starboard side is the supply duct while the portboard side is tyhe return duct. With three A/C units there are 3 remote sensors in the ceiling that are located between the two ducts. The cool air runs from one end of the ceiling to the other. This gives false readings on the sensors so you need to set the thermostat to some really weird settings to get the right temperature. After a while you learn them. Because only half of the ducts are supply, you get lots of cool air on on side of the coach but not so much on the other. The airflow from three units gets pushed through these small diameter ducts at a fairly high velocity. The end result is that you don't hear the A/C units themselves but you do hear the airflow due to it's higher velocity. It's not objectionable but it isn't perfect either.

The Cornerstone was very quiet but uses a different duct system. It used larger square ducts on both sides of the coach which gave better coverage and lowered the airflow velocity. Their thermostat was also accurate although I'm not overly fond of having to go into the mid-bath to access the thermostat, AGS, and other various controls. I like a midship in-wall design, like Winnebago is known for. But Travel Supreme was more concerned with a clean, uncluttered look rather than function so that's what Entegra inherited.

I did notice the A/C unit in the bedroom of the Aspire but didn't run it so can't speak as to how that sounds.

I do remember my Itasca's basement air, but don't ever want to go with that again. Way too many clanking, mechanical noises beneath the bed at night.
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:07 AM   #14
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we have a 2012 anthem... the A/C's are noisey... we will have the dealer check them out again... I think there is to much vibration in the a/c units themselves that transmit to the interior of the coach. friend has a 2011 Diplomant, his a/c's do not drown out the TV when they come on, much quieter than the a/c's in our anthem.. I think our a/c's do not match the rest of the quality of the anthem. sad!
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