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Old 01-26-2013, 07:54 PM   #15
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I believe the tile is laid up to the cabinetry, not underneath
You are correct. This is one of the major differences between Entegra and the competition. Something also to consider with the tile, is that the grout is not sealed. I will have that alone of the first things I'll take care of.
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Tom,

Not familiar with what "sealed" means. Could you explain the process?
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Dave,

A grout sealer can (probably should) be applied to any grout that may be in frequent contact with dirt/muck. It's cheap, but time consuming. Simple as taking a sponge brush dipping it into the sealer and applying the sealer to the grout. We will definitely be applying it to our new one.

Caution should be taken if you intend to apply a grout sealer to grout that is already "dirty". As the sealer will "seal" in that dirt or discoloration.
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A grout sealer can (probably should) be applied to any grout that may be in frequent contact with dirt/muck. It's cheap, but time consuming. Simple as taking a sponge brush dipping it into the sealer and applying the sealer to the grout. We will definitely be applying it to our new one.

Caution should be taken if you intend to apply a grout sealer to grout that is already "dirty". As the sealer will "seal" in that dirt or discoloration.
The sealer is especially important if you ever drop or spill something on the grout in the kitchen. The grout is porous and will soak up most liquids ie wine, tomato sauce, soup etc. if the grout is sealed, the liquid can be wiped up without leaving a stain.
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It was our understanding that this is an epoxy grout and does not need to be sealed. The dirty look is a systemic problem in the grout mix.
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It was our understanding that this is an epoxy grout and does not need to be sealed. The dirty look is a systemic problem in the grout mix.
I believe it is an epoxy grout (which allows for the coach to flex without the grout cracking). However, I'm not certain about epoxy grout not needing to be sealed.
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It was our understanding that this is an epoxy grout and does not need to be sealed. The dirty look is a systemic problem in the grout mix.
Makes me wonder then how/why the bathroom grout (Anthem) is such a pretty, even white...even where the inlay tile was done???I would think the tile guys are the tile guys on the assembly line. Something in this grout thread just doesn't seem to make sense...JMHO.
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This thread has moved pretty far from valances but it is true that epoxy grout can look like it has dirt mixed in. Our stix house has several different colors of epoxy grout throughout. One bathroom which happens to have the lightest color grout in it always looks dirty. The installer was at a loss going so far as to get a different batch from his supplier, which made no difference. I don't know if Entegra is having the same problem or not but there are issues with epoxy grout.
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This thread has moved pretty far from valances but it is true that epoxy grout can look like it has dirt mixed in. Our stix house has several different colors of epoxy grout throughout. One bathroom which happens to have the lightest color grout in it always looks dirty. The installer was at a loss going so far as to get a different batch from his supplier, which made no difference. I don't know if Entegra is having the same problem or not but there are issues with epoxy grout.
Good point Gary. Regarding valances, we've got 20k miles on our in a year. So we've spent some time in our coach. I've never once had an issue w/ one while making the bed. The wife will usually help make the other side and she hasn't had an issue either. So I'm a little perplexed w/ this one.
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