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Old 10-06-2019, 06:27 AM   #1
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Cold drafty windows

I am noticing a great deal of cold air entering through the dinette and theater seat windows. It's not windy out, just 45 degrees. Anyone else observe this? I'm not sure if it is in fact air infiltration or convection through the aluminum, but it's cold.
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Are the valences on the windows? Are they closed on the top? That would reduce convection.

Maybe get something light that will move with air like smoke but not smoke and put it around the window outside see if it enters.
Sometimes my windows would look closed but weren't. Maybe try to reclose them?

Of coirse you could put up insulation to block the cold too if it is not air infiltration.
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Are the valences on the windows? Are they closed on the top? That would reduce convection.

Maybe get something light that will move with air like smoke but not smoke and put it around the window outside see if it enters.
Sometimes my windows would look closed but weren't. Maybe try to reclose them?

Of coirse you could put up insulation to block the cold too if it is not air infiltration.
When I first noticed this back in 2018 on a cold morning, I observed gaps in the contact points where the glass met the weather stripping, around the windows perimeter. Entegra sent me new windows to install. They too had the same gaps. To solve this I installed a secondary bulb seal around the interior perimeter where the interior glass contacts the sash, but by that time it was warm and I couldn't tell if air was still entering. Today it's cold out (45) and I can feel it again. I can only imagine how bad it might be at 20. They are closed tight.

Valances?
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Valences are the pieces my DW says make the window look pretty inside. They are meant to cover the blinds and disrupt convection currents....doesnt sound like your problem. It sounds like you have air infiltration from the seals.

Do you get water leaks when it rains?
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Valences are the pieces my DW says make the window look pretty inside. They are meant to cover the blinds and disrupt convection currents....doesnt sound like your problem. It sounds like you have air infiltration from the seals.

Do you get water leaks when it rains?
Never. They are water tight and given the design it would be difficult for water to penetrate, even under pressure from my pw. The valances are not the issue. I have added it to the PDI list for next week. Hopefully they will have a solution.
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The windows suck.
I think all the "hinge on the top tilt out windows" suck.

Thinking about starting to replace them with American made sliding windows from Atwood.
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It looks as though Atwood's window assets had been purchased by Lippert Components in March 2017.
Looks as though Dometic is now selling the Atwood product line under the Dometic name.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...skRXj82Et3M6Ld
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Two of our windows leak air too (the one on the driver's side just behind the driver and the front-most of the two dinette windows). In both cases, observation shows that there is substantially less foam strip insulation around the edge. The windows that work have almost a full edging, with small openings that in turn are blocked a bit inward wit ha second small strip. The windows that leak have large gaps. In fact, while driving down the road the window gradually opens because of the force exerted by the wind. NIRVC wanted to replace the windows under warranty, but Entegra refused and only sent a new latch. I know that isn't going to work. I asked the dealer to add more seal; we'll see what it looks like when I get it back.
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We have one leak that I know of in the window behind the couch. Both bed windows leak some, or give off a lot of convection cooling. So much so, that in in sub 20 temperatures, I stuff a pair of bed pillows in both of those windows. They fit perfect, and do wonders to keep the bed warm all the way into the corners.

That said, our windows are so much tighter and better insulated than our previous coach, it isn't funny.

When we get caught by surprise or design in sub freezing temps, we keep the blinds down a lot more. We have found our Aspire is fantastically toasty in even sub zero wind chills.

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Coach is in Middlebury for 2 yr pdi. They are suggesting using shorter pivot arms which reportedly pull the window tighter. I have my doubts.
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This is how they fixed my window that would rattle when driving at highway speeds with a crosswind. So far, is much improved.
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This is how they fixed my window that would rattle when driving at highway speeds with a crosswind. So far, is much improved.
Good to know. Thanks!
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Coach is in Middlebury for 2 yr pdi. They are suggesting using shorter pivot arms which reportedly pull the window tighter. I have my doubts.
Shorter arms?

Wow.
I've replaced all of mine with the longest I can find, as well as cutting down the limiters inside the grooves, all to try to get some airflow.
My escape windows open almost a foot, the big dining table window 8", and I got almost 5" out of the partial tiltouts above my couch.

Still not enough airflow.
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