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Old 06-27-2012, 11:30 AM   #1
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These are some things that are an issue with the Entegra 1 1/2 bath that I have noticed are a problem with the layout: if you open the right refrigerator door at >90 degrees the door hits the granite counter and causes dents in the door. Also, because there is no vent in the wood that surrounds the front and rear televisions, you must use the surround sound to hear anything because the tv speaker is muffled. The main tv should be relocated so that it is not blocked by slide during travel. Maybe that's only an issue if you are traveling with kids who like to watch tv to pass time on the road. On mine (I am not sure if they are all plumbed the same) everything is plumbed to the black tank other than the kitchen sink. That makes the black fill up fairly quick if you take a shower or do laundry. When the slides are closed Ac vent in the middle is blocked by slide.
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Interesting observations on your unit. Have you mentioned any of them to the factory? I'd be curious to know their reaction.
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Have been playing phone tag with them. When I do, I'll post their response.
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I notice the similar issues with the speakers.

They plumb the vanity sinks to the black tank to keep water in the black tank to eliminate pyramiding and odor issues. It's actually an advantage to have the vanity drain into the black tank. However, if everything is draining into the black...well that's an issue.
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From my observation of the RBQ floorplan, they could pretty much have the same set up as the DLQ on the front passenger slide and eliminate the dent issue and the issue of looking around the Fridge to see the TV. My wife really likes the Dual vanity of the DLQ and likes the W&D in the back. It's only us 2 and the Buster so we don't need 2 bathrooms. Rather have the storage. But with kids, a second bathroom is almost a necessity.
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I notice the similar issues with the speakers.

They plumb the vanity sinks to the black tank to keep water in the black tank to eliminate pyramiding and odor issues. It's actually an advantage to have the vanity drain into the black tank. However, if everything is draining into the black...well that's an issue.
I figured the vanities would drain to the black, but the washer and the shower are draining there as well. Mine is going back in the shop and I'll have them look at the plumbing while it's there.
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I say that sucks. When at a water and electric only CG, how can one release his gray water onto the ground? I ain't buying the "pyramiding" claim.
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We were having to dump the black daily when we were parked. Then on the 2 day drive back home with showering limited only to one each, the black was completely full and the gray was empty. I think there is some kind of problem.
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Te pyramiding isn't a claim it's a fact. If you disagree, put solids into a dry black tank and report back. You want the bathroom vanities draining into the black tank. Shower, washer and whatever else... No way! Sounds like you have an issue that definitely needs solving. They'll get it solved for you. Good luck.
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Yes, pyramiding can occurr with NO water from the flush process...but, of course that's silly. There WILL be fluids added with the flush.

Ask youself why virtually all "plastic" coaches divert grey water to a grey tank, with only the Newell and Prevosts mixing all water into a single, but much larger combined tank. And in most cases using a macerator.

As for black tank management, you want those solids to have max time to break down. Adding additional water will shorten that dwell time and result in incomplete breakdown of solids.
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Listen, I am new to this stuff. What exactly is pyramiding?
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It's like having a "PHD"....Piled higher and deeper!
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Pyramiding happens when solids are put into a tank that has minimal water and the solids begin to "pyramid" up. You have a relatively large black tank. Consider the width of the tank; if the only water you put into that tank was from the flush you would start the process of pyramiding which can be difficult to resolve.

You want the solids to enter a tank that has plenty of water AND CHEMICAL in the tank.
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I say that sucks. When at a water and electric only CG, how can one release his gray water onto the ground? I ain't buying the "pyramiding" claim.
I thought it was illegal to dump the grey water on the ground?

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