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Old 12-08-2017, 05:04 AM   #1
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Frustrated to no end...Basement and Hydronic Floor Heat

Hey group, Iím in need of some accurate information on whatís going on or what Iím not doing correctly. I think my biggest frustration is that Iím not educated enough on how these systems are supposed to work. Our Aspire is new to us and thereís so so much to learn.

I have two issues, both in regards to heat underneath the coach. We have a 2013 Aspire 42DEQ with a 375 LP AquaHot. Iíve been working on this for weeks to no avail.
First issue, no in floor hydronic heat. Iíve tried everything I can think of. Iíve called Entegra multiple times and they are very helpful but I seem to get different advice each time I call. The HVAC controls in the bathroom can be set many ways. I have tried multiple setups, Zone 2 is currently set to gas and the temp for Zone 2 is set to 78 degrees, and each time I try something different, I wait 24 hours to see if it works. Anyhow, I can not get the floor to warm up and our feet are absolutely freezing. Iíve tried all three zones on gas, burner only switch on, burner and electric switches on etc etc. Iíve set it up so Zone 1 and 3 Click image for larger version

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Second issue is my basement hot air heat stopped working, maybe Iím missing a setup somewhere? It worked fine when I purchased the coach two months ago. Iíve replaced the hard to use/read basement thermostat thinking that might be the issue but no change. ( I put a simple digital thermostat in its place). Anyhow it no longer blows hot air. Is it actually electric or gas? What tells the basement heat to use the basement thermostat? I have all three zones in the bathroom cabinet active and set to heat. I can hear the basement thermostat click when I turn it up and call for heat, but no hot air blows out the vents.Iíve checked every fuse I can find in the entire coach. I donít know what else to check or set differently.
This is an amazing coach but Iím really frustrated and fixated on getting everything to work properly. Who can I talk to thatís well educated in these two specific areas? Iím open to any and all suggestions at this point.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:32 AM   #2
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This is a re post from MRUSA14 that he took the time to explain everything a few years ago. It has helped me tremendously to learn the correct setting of my Aqua Hot.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:39 AM   #3
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This is a re post from MRUSA14 that he took the time to explain everything a few years ago. It has helped me tremendously to learn the correct setting of my Aqua Hot.
Correct Aqua Settings and Use


Thanks Brobox, Iíve studied that post, but still no joy.
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Frustrated to no end...Basement and Hydronic Floor Heat

I remember reading that sometimes the hoses that flow the hot water to one or more zones is kinked..... maybe someone else will chime in here...Iím thinking you might be able to see from the basement ?

Should also be a procedure where you can verify by sound or feel if the pumps are running.....there could be a pump malfunction which is preventing the hot water from circulating

Another good resource
http://forum.rvhydronicheaterrepair.com/forum.php?
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I am not familiar with the 375LP but have seen a lot of post on "buck board" problems with them. Might check those post. The person I would call is Aqua Hot Customer Service. They are very good at troubleshooting over the phone. You will need your units series number. Be ready to be on hold for awhile, first real cold spell and there will be a lot of calls.
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I had issues with my floor heat (zone 2) after taking it back up to entegra they found I had several kinks in our system they corrected and now we have no problems. I put a remote weather station in my basement so I could monitor my temp in the basement. I am in Dayton Ohio where it was 15 degrees this morning my temp in the basement was at 55 degrees no problems. I really can't feel any hot air blowing in basement but it seems to circulate down there. I have my fresh water disconnected and just filling my fresh water tank.
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I have the exact coach, send me a PM and I can send you my #. I would crank your floor all the way up. Remember our body temp is 98.6 so if your floor is set on 78 still going to feel pretty cold on your feet.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:35 AM   #8
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I agree, set zone 2 heat to the maximum it will go. If after 24 hours you still have a cold floor, at least you will know it was not because the thermostat was set too low.

There is a dedicated pump for floor heat circulation. In my coach I can hear that running when I turn on floor heat. If you donít hear it, ask Entegra where it is located in your coach so that you can get up close to it and see if it runs.
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Ditto what Marc said. It would be quite easy for a couple of kinks to disable your floorheat. Zone 2 must be on GAS heat. I usually set mine between 75-80F. I can feel it in different floor tiles in a few hours. If you hear the burner running and no floor heat you have kinks! There are several old postings about where to look for kinks. You may not have any luck finding the kinks with the slides in. Problem areas have been in the kitchen cabinet slide and behind the driver. As Marc also said as soon as that Zone2 is turned up you should hear a buzzing like sound of the circulation pump on the passenger side rear wheel well. It is in that aft water equip compartment. On my old Aspire that compartment was secured with a couple screws vs a door latch (still has a hinge).

The more I read your post it sounds like you have some kinks.
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Try bringing your right front slide in, and see if the floor heat is restored. Mine had a kink, and this action confirmed it to us.
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Probably a pretty obvious suggestion but have you gone to The Aqua Hot website and downloaded the manual? They have a lot of trouble shooting advice for pumps and everything else. I have also heard of lots of issues with the kitchen slide and linking of the pex lines. If the pumps work and electricity is there for the blowers I would think there is a high likelihood for something to be linked.
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On your coach the dedicated pump for floor heat is on the front wall of the compartment just forward of the passenger side dual wheels. There are two screws under the panel to remove then you can open the panel by pulling up.
Check the control panel by the aqua hot unit and make sure there are no red pump lights on. Red light on equals bad zone pump. Just changed two pumps on a friends 42deq, not much fun.
If all else fails there are two check valves, inside the cover, one from each pump. With the unit running rap each one of those check valves with a wrenc or hammer. There is a safety switch that you have to manually depress to get the unit to operate when you take the access panel off.
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Tor, is your coach warm?

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