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Mr_D · 06-16-2018, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smlranger

Just curious but wonder if your installation will be less complicated/expensive since your Affinity already has HWH air leveling? Thinking some of the components are already there.....12V compressor, etc?

I thought the same thing on my Magna but got the same full week to install and about $10,500 install with tax.

philnail · 06-17-2018, 09:05 AM

This is fantastic news Debbie and thanks for such a detailed report. I can’t wait to get our installed on July 16th. Safe travels: wavey

vito.a · 06-17-2018, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DebbieMH

BTW ... the little air compressor that is near the steps talked about here is ONLY for auto leveling the coach at a campsite. It is not to add air to the airbags underway and won't actually be running at all when you are traveling. The spartan air that has always been there for the bags and the brakes is what is used. So, that little air compressor won't be harmed by the elements much because it is not on and is not essential to the process.

Don't want to take anything away from an awesome system but the Thomas 12V pump works the same way in the legacy HWH air suspension. It's an auxiliary compressor that provides air when you are parked. It's gets gunk in it while driving even though the pump is not running. Then it stops working and the coach will not level without starting the diesel engine to air up the main system.

Again I'm a big fan of HWH systems and really impressed by the active air system. I hope someone speaks to them about putting a shroud or something around the pump to protect it.

All the best!

Chargerman · 06-17-2018, 11:34 AM

X2 on vito.a’s comment.

MxChief66-1 · 06-17-2018, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vito.a

Don't want to take anything away from an awesome system but the Thomas 12V pump works the same way in the legacy HWH air suspension. It's an auxiliary compressor that provides air when you are parked. It's gets gunk in it while driving even though the pump is not running. Then it stops working and the coach will not level without starting the diesel engine to air up the main system.

Again I'm a big fan of HWH systems and really impressed by the active air system. I hope someone speaks to them about putting a shroud or something around the pump to protect it.

All the best!

Agreed Vito, I’m designing a shroud System now to install on mine.

Mark

Fattman-Litlboy · 06-17-2018, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MxChief66-1

Agreed Vito, I’m designing a shroud System now to install on mine.

Mark

Great Mark, share with us when you have completed it.
Jim

buddy110 · 06-17-2018, 02:22 PM

Ok. Someone please tell me why HWH is better than Hadley?

Chargerman · 06-17-2018, 02:26 PM

How about telling us why Hadley is better than HWH since you must like their system.

buddy110 · 06-17-2018, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chargerman

How about telling us why Hadley is better than HWH since you must like their system.

I have no idea as I don't know the WHW system. I am asking to educate myself. What does it do that Hadley doesn't/can't?

Mr_D · 06-17-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vito.a

Don't want to take anything away from an awesome system but the Thomas 12V pump works the same way in the legacy HWH air suspension. It's an auxiliary compressor that provides air when you are parked. It's gets gunk in it while driving even though the pump is not running. Then it stops working and the coach will not level without starting the diesel engine to air up the main system.

Again I'm a big fan of HWH systems and really impressed by the active air system. I hope someone speaks to them about putting a shroud or something around the pump to protect it.

All the best!

Luckily on my CC my aux pump is mounted in an electrical bay with no dirt getting to it.

DebbieMH · 06-17-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by buddy110

Ok. Someone please tell me why HWH is better than Hadley?

I'm not sure if it is "better" than the Hadley system ... Hadley won't do "after market" ... at least that is my understanding.

I think HWH Active Air is the only option for folks like myself who have a coach that didn't come with Hadley.

Although I could be wrong ... I think Cruser posted awhile back saying what the difference is. I just can't find it at the moment.

BTW ... I'm home in NOLA and the coach is at Pontchartrain Landing until this weekend ... then we will take it back to Bella Terra. I made it ...and all by myself! See gals ... everyone needs to learn to drive the coach, if for nothing else, if something goes wrong.

brobox · 06-17-2018, 04:13 PM

Lynn, your did awesome!!!

Conchdog · 06-17-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DebbieMH

I'm not sure if it is "better" than the Hadley system ... Hadley won't do "after market" ... at least that is my understanding.

I think HWH Active Air is the only option for folks like myself who have a coach that didn't come with Hadley.

Although I could be wrong ... I think Cruser posted awhile back saying what the difference is. I just can't find it at the moment.

BTW ... I'm home in NOLA and the coach is at Pontchartrain Landing until this weekend ... then we will take it back to Bella Terra. I made it ...and all by myself! See gals ... everyone needs to learn to drive the coach, if for nothing else, if something goes wrong.

Lynn,

You rock!

We applaud you doing this on your own and appreciate the updates!

Sending prayers for your husband to kick a#* on the Big C!!

Chris & Barb

redbaron73 · 06-19-2018, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by buddy110

I have no idea as I don't know the WHW system. I am asking to educate myself. What does it do that Hadley doesn't/can't?

I have Active air, and test drove a Hadley system
Both on newmar coaches. From the drivers seat, it is hard to tell the difference between the two under normal driving conditions. They are both very good.

The difference is in how the system predicts weight shift. Hadley does not predict, but rather reacts. HWH has a sensor around the steering column that registers very slight movements in the wheel, and uses that data to predict weight shift, and pre-loads the airbags.

I was able to tell a difference when doing an emergency lane maneuver at 55mph. The Hadley system acted like any other system would...meaning it did nothing and scared the heck out of the poor sales guy that was with me.

The HWH system handles this amazingly well. You have to live it to believe it.

Under normal driving conditions Hadley has plenty of time to react and does a great job.

Air leveling features are similar, but I like the feature Hadley has for "hunting " for a good spot to level. Since HWH doesn't do this, I have a level I place on the floor that I have learned where my tolerances are. It's a good guesstimate at best.