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08-19-2018, 03:57 PM
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Hydraulic Drip
I have a hydraulic drip from the "T" connector shown in the image. I am not sure if this can be tightened or a sealer put on the threads. Anyone have any experience in this area and how to tackle getting this fixed. Looks like the whole back tank area would need to be drained, take all the connections loose, check the fittings, put a sealer on the threads (carefully) and put everything back together, and refill. Not sure if this is something better left to the shop, and could NIRVC in the Dallas area work on this, or is it going to take a Spartan shop?
In addition, the oil fill tube to the engine appears to be leaking - looks like a hose and clamp issue.
This is where is dripping, from the "T".
Hose and Clamp may also need attention. (the white rag was attached because I thought the leak was from the hose and clamp)
Image of the oil fill tube where it attaches to the engine
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Mark & Debra Wood, Las Colinas, TX.
2013 Entegra Aspire 42RBQ
2023 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4XE
2013 Thor Challenger 37DT - Sold
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08-19-2018, 04:28 PM
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I had a similar problem on my 2013 Aspire. The tank itself had a bad weld and needed to be replaced. Hope it's not that. Likely to be a messy job in any case. I had a local diesel shop swap out my tank and they did a proper job. Good luck!
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08-19-2018, 05:57 PM
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I did take an image of the bottom of my tank, and there was evidence of a leak there - it could have started there, and run down to the "T" connection. I wish I would have cleaned it, then drive some and cycle the jacks, and see if it is from the bottom on the tank - would make more sense.
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Mark & Debra Wood, Las Colinas, TX.
2013 Entegra Aspire 42RBQ
2023 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4XE
2013 Thor Challenger 37DT - Sold
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08-19-2018, 07:49 PM
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Mark, that reservoir is for the engine hydraulics. The jack reservoir is forward of the battery compartment behind a sheet of ABS plastic.
I would de-grease and pressure wash everything, then trace the leak down.
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08-20-2018, 06:32 AM
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FWIW I found the pictures I sent to Spartan back in 2014;
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2JeY2TFH1wLhcv9D6
In the top photo if you look close you can see a drop of oil coming from what appears to be a crack or rust spot in the weld. As I recall, while it was very slow, it leaked all the time not just when the engine was running.
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08-20-2018, 11:28 AM
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Mark, is there any hydraulic fluid on the top of the reservoir?
I ask because we had an issue a year ago with the cooling fan for the hydraulic system. The fan itself fell off the shaft from the motor and as a result the hydraulic system was getting very hot and expelling hydraulic fluid from the fill cap.
If this isnt the case, try to tighten the line and hose clamp 1/4 turn at a time and test drive.
-Matt
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08-20-2018, 05:14 PM
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Thank you for the images Rob - my tank is not that clean..lol, but shows evidence of a possible leak from the tank, on the bottom.
Matt, there is not any fluid on top of the tank, I believe the leak is either in the bottom of the tank, or one of the fittings has lost it's seal, or the hose clamps you referred to. The fluid is dripping slowly, and the tank has some fluid traces on the side toward the engine, probably from the wind blowing when driving.
I received a PM on here last evening, (many thanks Brett) and plan to set up a service visit at NIRVC in Lewisville (DFW area) sometime tomorrow to take the coach in. I hate to clean it up before I take it in so they can diagnose. Once I talk to them tomorrow, I may try some of these tips. I will post the final outcome here.
Thank you for all your help and suggestions.
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2013 Entegra Aspire 42RBQ
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2013 Thor Challenger 37DT - Sold
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08-20-2018, 07:15 PM
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Brett and his gang will fix you up.
They have some great people working there.
-Matt
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08-24-2018, 06:32 PM
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Dropped off the MH yesterday at NIRVC in Lewisville, and sure enough, the tank is leaking from one of the welds on the bottom of the tank, like Rob's. Going to have them replace the tank, and see if Spartan will help cover the tank (labor more than the tank), but understood.
The other issue on the Oil fill tube leaking was easy as they were able to remove, cut off a little, and attach and re-position.
Very thankful, and impressed that NIRVC could get me in so soon. Thanks to Sean for keeping me in the loop.
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Mark & Debra Wood, Las Colinas, TX.
2013 Entegra Aspire 42RBQ
2023 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4XE
2013 Thor Challenger 37DT - Sold
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08-24-2018, 06:52 PM
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Hydraulic Drip
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Originally Posted by Mwoodofd
Dropped off the MH yesterday at NIRVC in Lewisville, and sure enough, the tank is leaking from one of the welds on the bottom of the tank, like Rob's. Going to have them replace the tank, and see if Spartan will help cover the tank (labor more than the tank), but understood.
The other issue on the Oil fill tube leaking was easy as they were able to remove, cut off a little, and attach and re-position.
Very thankful, and impressed that NIRVC could get me in so soon. Thanks to Sean for keeping me in the loop.
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Mark, I believe I have the same issue. Was the weak weld attaching one of the nipple fittings to the bottom of the tank?
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08-25-2018, 05:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pallencollin
Mark, I believe I have the same issue. Was the weak weld attaching one of the nipple fittings to the bottom of the tank?
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Peter, I believe it was. I have not seen the tank since they diagnosed the leak, but will see if I can get the detail from Sean, he did tell me it was leaking from a weld spot on the bottom of the tank, and sounds like it is the same area as yours, and Robs.
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2013 Entegra Aspire 42RBQ
2023 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4XE
2013 Thor Challenger 37DT - Sold
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08-25-2018, 12:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mwoodofd
Peter, I believe it was. I have not seen the tank since they diagnosed the leak, but will see if I can get the detail from Sean, he did tell me it was leaking from a weld spot on the bottom of the tank, and sounds like it is the same area as yours, and Robs.
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Sounds like the same thing, mine was a leaky weld on the larger fitting on the tank bottom.
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08-26-2018, 06:03 AM
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A lot of weight hanging off the bottom of that reservoir. Spartan has redesigned that area so the hydraulic filter is hanging off a cross member below the tank. All that weigh and vibration can cause metal fatigue and weld failure. You might want to ask if they can reconfigure that area to the new hydraulic layout. I have spoken to other owners who have the hydraulic filter hanging off the bottom of the hydraulic tank with the same issue.
If you made a complain to Spartan while under warranty and it is documented Spartan might do the repair under “goodwill”.
I have an issue currently and Spartan engineering has not found a solution. However, I was told even if I am out of warrenty Spartan Warranty will cover it.
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Ray and Linda
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08-26-2018, 10:44 AM
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Have not thought about that Ray, good point. I can see where the weight from all the connectors and hoses supported by the bottom tank connection.
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2013 Thor Challenger 37DT - Sold
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