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01-18-2018, 07:39 PM
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I see from the sign on the front windshield that it has a "Massive 360 HP Cummins Diesel" engine.
If only I had known that before I popped for the puny X15 in the Cornerstone. A day late and more than a few dollars short!
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2022 Newmar Super Star 4061
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01-18-2018, 08:49 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Newmar Owners Club Texas Boomers Club Spartan Chassis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saddlesore
Spartan K-1 chassis, ISB 360, wonder if they went with the minimal transmission as well?
Layout of interior 'meh. and is that solid wood doors on vinyl laminate cabinets and trim?
And with those slides and the additional bathroom on the 39 footer... wonder if they offer a tag axle to keep the weight carrying capacities up where they are meaningful ?
Must be my eyes...
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No tag.
Rear radiator.
I believe salesgirl says it does have the Allison 3,000.
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Dan & Linda
FMCA 399045 NKK 22240
2020 Dutch Star 4081 - Spartan K2
2017 Dutch Star 4018 - Sold - Towing Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk
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01-18-2018, 09:31 PM
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I was kinda neutral on this. I think it was all ok.
Until I saw this..."Quietest Riding, Best Handling Coach on the Market Today...Period" on the window advertisement.
Now I think they are cheapening the brand.
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2017 Cornerstone 45B, 2012 JK Rubicon in tow
2014 Anthem 44B (sold)
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01-18-2018, 09:58 PM
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Went to the link out of curiosity.
They call this "theater seating".
How stupid is this. You sit in a theater type lounge seat and then have to turn your head 90* to watch the TV. Bunch of maroons.
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2004 Fleetwood Southwind 32VS W20 - SOLD!
ReadyBrute Elite towing a 2017 Ford Edge Sport
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01-18-2018, 10:15 PM
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Foretravel Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RubiconTrail
I was kinda neutral on this. I think it was all ok.
Until I saw this..."Quietest Riding, Best Handling Coach on the Market Today...Period" on the window advertisement.
Now I think they are cheapening the brand.
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I as well think they are cutting a pretty wide swath on that ...
Would be tempted to ask...compared to which coach manufacturers??
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'02 Foretravel... "This Shack will do"
being pushed by an '06 Scion xB
SKP's of Box Elder, South Dakota
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01-18-2018, 10:22 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Georgia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Armye7
We looked at this coach at the show today RV One had one there on display. In my opinion it looks like a cheap version of a classic entegra.
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And that's exactly what it is.
Saw it today from a distance, going to take a closer look tomorrow.
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01-18-2018, 10:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saddlesore
I as well think they are cutting a pretty wide swath on that ...
Would be tempted to ask...compared to which coach manufacturers??
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That phrase has been marketed with the Entegra brand. I think it's not an unreasonable claim, and either way it's good marketing. Entegra's are very quiet, handle well, and ride well. Using their trademarked catchphrase to market half the coach from their lower end sister company cheapens the Entegra brand, IMO.
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2017 Cornerstone 45B, 2012 JK Rubicon in tow
2014 Anthem 44B (sold)
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01-18-2018, 10:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SAS30
And that's exactly what it is.
Saw it today from a distance, going to take a closer look tomorrow.
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Please do! and give it a good going over (if they will let you)
For the price they are asking I would expect "rings on their fingers and bells on their toes"....ho ho
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'02 Foretravel... "This Shack will do"
being pushed by an '06 Scion xB
SKP's of Box Elder, South Dakota
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01-18-2018, 10:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RubiconTrail
That phrase has been marketed with the Entegra brand. I think it's not an unreasonable claim, and either way it's good marketing. Entegra's are very quiet, handle well, and ride well. .
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Oh I see....
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Retired truckdriver,
'02 Foretravel... "This Shack will do"
being pushed by an '06 Scion xB
SKP's of Box Elder, South Dakota
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01-19-2018, 05:56 AM
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As one still researching DP, this does not cheapen your brand or change my opinion of resale value. Post 2016 these additions should be expected. I don’t think Ventana LE have cheapened King Aires.
I am a lot more concerned about a window falling out of a 2016 Anthem than a new entry level DP.
All JMHO
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01-19-2018, 06:18 AM
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The best handling and quiet was based on a hung wall construction. It will be interesting to see what construction technique is used compared to the Entegra brand.
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01-19-2018, 06:23 AM
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Entegra Owners Club
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Location: Lexington, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pallencollin
Just saw a video of the just introduced Jayco DP featuring the “Classic “ front and rear caps. There goes the future resale value for us classic owners.
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My former 2011 Entegra Coach was not a tag axle. It was on a Freightliner chassis and never say in a shop for two weeks waiting on a radiator replacement. Did that "cheapen" the brand. Freightliner service was faster for all maintenance and easier to find.
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2015 Entegra Coach Anthem 42RBQ
2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee
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01-19-2018, 06:30 AM
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Location: western NC mountains!
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well
it looks like Jayco is wanting a diesel model for their dealers who traditionally have been in the ClassA gas market, but without a diesel to compete with others...
it's very doubtful that an Entegra dealer is going to be marketing these along side their 'big boys'... and I doubt that any of this has anything to do with 'cheapening' your brand, as if only YOU own the brand. Why is that such a common complaint among current owners of Entegras?? Does the Insignia 'cheapen' the brand?? Does the Aspire getting roof-mounted awnings similar to the Anthem and Cornerstone 'cheapen' the brand?? Enjoy what you have and let others decide what they want, or don't want, on their own.
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01-19-2018, 10:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deaton
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That is more than I paid for my new Insignia. While the Insignia is the bottom of the line, I'll take it over that coach.
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