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Old 01-18-2018, 07:39 PM   #15
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I see from the sign on the front windshield that it has a "Massive 360 HP Cummins Diesel" engine.

If only I had known that before I popped for the puny X15 in the Cornerstone. A day late and more than a few dollars short!
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Spartan K-1 chassis, ISB 360, wonder if they went with the minimal transmission as well?
Layout of interior 'meh. and is that solid wood doors on vinyl laminate cabinets and trim?
And with those slides and the additional bathroom on the 39 footer... wonder if they offer a tag axle to keep the weight carrying capacities up where they are meaningful ?
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No tag.

Rear radiator.

I believe salesgirl says it does have the Allison 3,000.
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I was kinda neutral on this. I think it was all ok.

Until I saw this..."Quietest Riding, Best Handling Coach on the Market Today...Period" on the window advertisement.

Now I think they are cheapening the brand.
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Went to the link out of curiosity.
They call this "theater seating".
How stupid is this. You sit in a theater type lounge seat and then have to turn your head 90* to watch the TV. Bunch of maroons.

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I was kinda neutral on this. I think it was all ok.

Until I saw this..."Quietest Riding, Best Handling Coach on the Market Today...Period" on the window advertisement.

Now I think they are cheapening the brand.
I as well think they are cutting a pretty wide swath on that ...
Would be tempted to ask...compared to which coach manufacturers??
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We looked at this coach at the show today RV One had one there on display. In my opinion it looks like a cheap version of a classic entegra.
And that's exactly what it is.
Saw it today from a distance, going to take a closer look tomorrow.
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I as well think they are cutting a pretty wide swath on that ...
Would be tempted to ask...compared to which coach manufacturers??
That phrase has been marketed with the Entegra brand. I think it's not an unreasonable claim, and either way it's good marketing. Entegra's are very quiet, handle well, and ride well. Using their trademarked catchphrase to market half the coach from their lower end sister company cheapens the Entegra brand, IMO.
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And that's exactly what it is.
Saw it today from a distance, going to take a closer look tomorrow.
Please do! and give it a good going over (if they will let you)
For the price they are asking I would expect "rings on their fingers and bells on their toes"....ho ho
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That phrase has been marketed with the Entegra brand. I think it's not an unreasonable claim, and either way it's good marketing. Entegra's are very quiet, handle well, and ride well. .
Oh I see....
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As one still researching DP, this does not cheapen your brand or change my opinion of resale value. Post 2016 these additions should be expected. I don’t think Ventana LE have cheapened King Aires.
I am a lot more concerned about a window falling out of a 2016 Anthem than a new entry level DP.
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The best handling and quiet was based on a hung wall construction. It will be interesting to see what construction technique is used compared to the Entegra brand.
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Just saw a video of the just introduced Jayco DP featuring the “Classic “ front and rear caps. There goes the future resale value for us classic owners.
My former 2011 Entegra Coach was not a tag axle. It was on a Freightliner chassis and never say in a shop for two weeks waiting on a radiator replacement. Did that "cheapen" the brand. Freightliner service was faster for all maintenance and easier to find.
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well

it looks like Jayco is wanting a diesel model for their dealers who traditionally have been in the ClassA gas market, but without a diesel to compete with others...

it's very doubtful that an Entegra dealer is going to be marketing these along side their 'big boys'... and I doubt that any of this has anything to do with 'cheapening' your brand, as if only YOU own the brand. Why is that such a common complaint among current owners of Entegras?? Does the Insignia 'cheapen' the brand?? Does the Aspire getting roof-mounted awnings similar to the Anthem and Cornerstone 'cheapen' the brand?? Enjoy what you have and let others decide what they want, or don't want, on their own.
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Saw the unit at Tampa Supershow today. I did not go in, but snapped a few pics of the outside. Salesgirl said the”show price” is $219,900.

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That is more than I paid for my new Insignia. While the Insignia is the bottom of the line, I'll take it over that coach.
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