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Old 11-12-2019, 08:34 AM   #1
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Loss of site power gen. Auto start

Anyone know how to hook up the loss of site power off for the generator auto start wires in a 2014 Anthem and where to connect them.
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Unsure what you mean.

Your coach should have already on it the ability to sense that your batteries are running down (which occurs if the power goes off) and start the genny. I assume you know that. That is built in.

Are you asking about the ability to sense the commercial power directly and as soon as it is lost, to start the genny?

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Old 11-12-2019, 08:46 AM   #3
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Gary, The 14 require a transformer modification to sense when shore power is lost and start the generator. I had to have this mod done by Lazy Days as they misrepresented Auto Gen Start when taking the order for my coach.


Drbaarson there are several posts going back to 14 on this modification. Use the search bar at the top of the page type in Entegra Auto Gen Start and you will have several to choose from.
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Yes as we have dogs and worry about power loss
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I have the transformer just need to know where to hook up the wires
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I have the transformer just need to know where to hook up the wires
There are several post regarding that, but I think many from the 2014 era that did the modification, aren't too many on the forum anymore. You might have to use the search function to find those posts.
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shore power sense terminals 14 and 13

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Anyone know how to hook up the loss of site power off for the generator auto start wires in a 2014 Anthem and where to connect them.
We have a 14 Anthem and I added the shore power sense wiring to make the AGM start with loss of shore power.

I added a single 15 amp breaker to the left side of the breaker panel above the driver. The left side is shore power. I ran romex from the breaker panel around the front of the cap behind the cabinets to the cavity behind the instrument panel above the entry door. Terminated it with a 120 v receptacle and plugged in a 12v transformer to supply the shore sense power.

Remove the EC30 panel and on the back there is a connector with 16 cavities. cavity 14 should be the 12+ for shore power sense and cavity 13 is the shore power sense ground. these are the two you need.

You also need to know Cummins Power Generation (574) 262-4611. Hopefully Grover Simpson is still there. He (or his fill-in) is who you will need to talk to.

The AGM autostart with loss of shore power would not work by simply hooking up the wires as described. The module needed to have the software or calibration updated to 4.0 for the AGM to work correctly when shore power is lost. My module was "obsolete" and would not accept 4.0. I had to buy a new module and have Grover reprogram it for me. He helped orchestrate the new module purchase and intercepted it before it was sent to me and updated the software to 4.0.

Possibly if you simply purchase the latest and greatest replacement command 30 module it has the 4.0 in it already as 4.0 was "new" at the time back in 2014.

Once plugged into the new module with 4.0 the shore power loss AGM worked perfectly. We have had it activate a number of times due to campground power outages and it always has worked perfectly.

Look at your module to see if the terminals are numbered. They are not numbered logically. 14 is the third cavity from the left on the bottom row and 13 is the fourth cavity from the left.

This is all from ancient notes from when I did the mod years ago so your results may vary! Good luck but definitely contact Cummins Power Generation (formally known as Onan) to check the details of your command 30 module
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Thanks seems a bit more complicated than expected but that gives me the directions I need.
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I have a different solution for our pets. I keep my at&t hotspot/network with a wifi camera that also has temperature monitoring, plus a backup battery. Whenever the camera looses 115 volt power or the temperature is out set parameters it will send me a notification. Hotspot also has a battery backup. On our 2015 Aspire, when the auto start on the generator is set on and the thermostat calls for cooling the generator will start when park power is not present. I assumed the 2014s did the same.

We use the auto start feature a lot when we are on the road in Texas to keep the coach cool.

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If that works for the AC units set to air conditioning, then it should work for AC/heat pumps if set in the heat mode.

I know you are right. If I call for AC and the power goes out and the temp starts to climb, it is my understanding that as soon as AC is called for, the autostart will fire up the Onan and run it until you turn it off. I've never tried it for the heat pumps in winter but it seems like it should work the same way.

I also have a unit called a TempStik which is located in the Coach and linked to the Mobley or the Verizon MIFI. I can set any parameter for it to use as a threshhold and if the temp goes above or below my set threshhold, the TempStik will send me a text/email telling me that the parameter has been exceeded as a warning. $125 from Amazon.

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This was a fairly long post of the process:

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Good share Mark, I knew it was there.
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