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05-08-2017, 08:08 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Clear Lake, Texas
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New Tow Vehicle
We upgraded from a Wrangler to a Grand Cherokee and I am trying to figure out the best way to protect the front end on the tow. We travel I-10 between San Antonio and Phoenix quite a bit and there's always a 10 or 20 mile stretch of gravel that eats up the front end of the tow. Has anyone tried the Blue Ox KarGaurd? It's the lay flat screen that you roll out after you hook up.
Thanks!
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John & Connie
Daisy & Barney(K9Kids)
2017 Conerstone 45B
Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
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05-08-2017, 08:32 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Appalachian Campers Mid Atlantic Campers Coastal Campers Freightliner Owners Club
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Seems like that rubbing against the back of the coach would potentially scratch it.
https://www.etrailer.com/tv-review-b...r-bx88255.aspx
See video for details.
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2015 Tiffin RED 33AA, w/Honda CRV
VMSpc, Magnum BMK/ARC50
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05-08-2017, 08:47 AM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Green Valley, AZ
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I tried Tow Car Shield years ago. Would recommend running from them
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Stew and Diane (and Marco)
2018 Entegra Cornerstone 45X
Formerly: 2015 Entegra Cornerstone 45B, 2013 Entegra Aspire DEQ IFS, 2004 DSDP; all sold
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05-08-2017, 10:34 AM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Kerrville, TX
Posts: 320
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jb4545
We upgraded from a Wrangler to a Grand Cherokee and I am trying to figure out the best way to protect the front end on the tow. We travel I-10 between San Antonio and Phoenix quite a bit and there's always a 10 or 20 mile stretch of gravel that eats up the front end of the tow. Has anyone tried the Blue Ox KarGaurd? It's the lay flat screen that you roll out after you hook up.
Thanks!
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I also have a 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee which I tow behind my 2017 Aspire. I have the Blue Ox Avail tow bar, base plate and Airforce One brake system. I have used the vertical tow shields and will not use them again unless I have the Roadmaster Tow Defender RM4750 or Blue Ox BX8835. The shield causes rocks to bounce off and onto the back of your motorhome. A friend used the Roadmaster tow Defender and said it worked great to protect his tow vehicle.
The Tow Defender seems to be better engineered than the Blue Ox but that is not to say one is better than the other. The BX8835 just came on the market in past few months and is made for the Avail Tow bar. I was told by Blue Ox the old version had issues with the Avail Tow bar. The one thing I do not like about the Blue Ox is the pins that you install on the arm ends. It seem they could be a liability when the tow bar is in the stored position.
If you buy one I would be interested in your feedback because I need to buy one.
Ray
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05-08-2017, 10:46 AM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SW FL
Posts: 31,718
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A suggestion...one of my previous tenants installs the same material as Diamond Shield on our MH. The clear film has a lifetime warranty including rock chips. When they purchase the dealership, they get the computer program for every major vehicle pattern. They are the ones that do the car dealers here and the dealers mark it up.
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Chuck in SW FL
Digital 2021 Cornerstone "B"
A "Digital" 2019 Cornerstone "B" Traded
A "Classic" 2014 Anthem 42 RBQ---Sold
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05-08-2017, 11:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Montgomery, TX (Home Sweet Home)
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John, ensure your mudflap on the rear of the motorhome is adjusted as high as you can manage.
-Matt
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2017 Entegra Aspire 44R (bunks) towing 2019 F-350 LB (Sold)
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2016 Open Range RF376FBH (Sold)
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05-08-2017, 12:44 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
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I had the KarGard II and it worked fine with our old gas MH. The issue that I encountered was I made a tight turn and stopped. When I got out to disconnect the Jeep the mat material was laying against the exhaust pipe and melted some of it. Took it off that night.
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Jeff and Cheryl
2015 Aspire 44U, 2012 Jeep, FMCA - 476557
Northwest Ohio
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05-08-2017, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Clear Lake, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brobox
A suggestion...one of my previous tenants installs the same material as Diamond Shield on our MH. The clear film has a lifetime warranty including rock chips. When they purchase the dealership, they get the computer program for every major vehicle pattern. They are the ones that do the car dealers here and the dealers mark it up.
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The dealer I bought from is also recommending Xpel invisible bra. I'm getting a quote but he thought it would be around $1000 for the front end and headlights. I didn't mind the old Wrangler getting beat up but the new hasn't worn off the GC yet..........
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John & Connie
Daisy & Barney(K9Kids)
2017 Conerstone 45B
Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
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05-08-2017, 01:08 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SW FL
Posts: 31,718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jb4545
The dealer I bought from is also recommending Xpel invisible bra. I'm getting a quote but he thought it would be around $1000 for the front end and headlights. I didn't mind the old Wrangler getting beat up but the new hasn't worn off the GC yet..........
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Check with Diamond Shield or Xpel for who the local distributor is. My previous tenant is Suntamers - Window Tinting - Bonita Springs, Naples, Cape Coral, Sarasota, Fort Myers, Florida and I believe they told me the average price is $500. which would be right if the dealer is quoting $1,000.
Might even call the Cape Coral store, ask for Larry, tell him Chuck told you to call and find out who the installer might be for your area.
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Chuck in SW FL
Digital 2021 Cornerstone "B"
A "Digital" 2019 Cornerstone "B" Traded
A "Classic" 2014 Anthem 42 RBQ---Sold
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05-08-2017, 01:47 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Clear Lake, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brobox
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We have an Xpel distribution center here in Houston and I'm getting the quote directly from them. I haven't been able to find a Scotch Pro or Diamond Shield installer in Houston that does autos. I'll update the post when I get some prices......apparently they price it by piece or body panel.
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John & Connie
Daisy & Barney(K9Kids)
2017 Conerstone 45B
Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
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05-08-2017, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: western NC mountains!
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after all the lengthy threads and discussion on this forum abut this issue, I've resolved that NO additional protection really makes any substantial difference. Folks who use them and say that it works well are assuming that something would have happened otherwise. Those of us who don't use anything and haven't had any issues, 60,000+ miles for us, will make the case that nothing is needed.
I will also add that I believe that it has something to do with where the rear wheels are in relation to your overall length. If the tires are close to the rear, then I can bet you'd have a greater chance of issues, especially over gravel roads. If you have a lengthy overhang at the rear, then I think your probabilities are much lower.
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05-08-2017, 02:05 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
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Location: SW FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jb4545
We have an Xpel distribution center here in Houston and I'm getting the quote directly from them. I haven't been able to find a Scotch Pro or Diamond Shield installer in Houston that does autos. I'll update the post when I get some prices......apparently they price it by piece or body panel.
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I just called Larry at Sun Tamers and their product is Nano Fusion. They are who Diamond Shield calls to take care of warranty work in SW FL. Nano Fusion I was told was the top of the line material. Might see if they have a company in the Houston area. Nano Fusion Film - Paint Protection Film for the Automotive Industry
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Chuck in SW FL
Digital 2021 Cornerstone "B"
A "Digital" 2019 Cornerstone "B" Traded
A "Classic" 2014 Anthem 42 RBQ---Sold
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05-08-2017, 07:20 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Clear Lake, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brobox
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Will do............thanks Chuck!
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John & Connie
Daisy & Barney(K9Kids)
2017 Conerstone 45B
Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
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05-08-2017, 07:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Highland NY
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Diamond shield will protect the nose.
I was not aware that the grand cherokee had a two speed transfer case. We bout a trailhawk for this reason. We were told the GC could not be towed
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2021 Cornerstone Y Azure
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