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Old 12-04-2012, 02:53 PM   #29
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Cruzer is right about the satellite antenna, but it is ridiculous to have to remove a brand new satellite antenna and replace it to get HD on a coach which comes with four HD TV's. I hope Entegra is listening. This is a big boo-boo which is not in keeping with the rest of the coach which is quite up-to-date.
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I believe you will see that change forthcoming, most likely in next year's models. One consideration for an OEM is that, while the Trav'ler is the desired dish and the best around, there are two different models. One is for Dish while the other is for Direct. That's not too hard to do if the unit is a special order but for a dealer's stock unit it may be the wrong one.

However, the only real difference is in the LNB unit at the end so one style can easily be converted to the other by a dealer. If Winegard uses common software for both then they wouldn't even have to load a firmware upgrade.

Domes are rapidly losing popularity by the end user due to the many drawbacks they have. The only real reason that they do sell well enough is because most OEMs put them on rather than offer the Trav'ler. Once buyers have a choice, the domes wil rapidly fade (pun intended ) away.
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Old 12-04-2012, 03:12 PM   #31
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Are you guys having to use a b-band converter with your Trav'ler to get all the channels? I have one on mine, but sometimes it has trouble changing channels. Sometimes it takes several minutes to get a picture.
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Old 12-04-2012, 03:31 PM   #32
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My Trav'ler doesn't need them. However, that is because I am using the HR24 DVR, which doesn't use them. For some other receievers or DVRs you may need them. I also converted mine over to SWM so that I only need to feed a single coaxial cable to either DVR while still having dual channel capability. You do that by adding an SWM-8 to the Trav'ler's four outputs.

I suggest looking at Winegard's excellent online document regarding the Trav'lre and SWM implementation. It's available at http://www.winegard.com/kbase/upload/2452242.pdf
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:36 PM   #33
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Plenty of room on the anthem roof to just add traveller vs replacing the in motion. Entegra put a roof conduit in for me so its a simple run of the cables. I'm just planning to put an hdmi switch to control whether we use the hd box stationary, or the inmotion while moving. Only downside is paying for 2 boxes.
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You don't have to have two boxes with an HDMI switch. You can use an A/B switch on the coaxial connection going into the receiver or DVR. I've dabbled with that in the past with my DirecTV HR24 DVR and splitting my KingDome with an external HD feed. What I did was add the SWM8 to convert me over to a single coax feed, then put the A/B switch in just prior to the DVR.

The only drawback is when switching between the dome's SD feeds and the external dish's HD feeds. I had to reprogram the DVR and switch from a dual LNB Round dish to a 5 LNB oval dish. That meant that my channel guide was all messed up because the SD and HD channels are different numbers. So, every time I switcfhed I had to reboot and reset the DVR, then wait for my channel guide to update the information. When it came time to install the Trav'ler I decided to skip that mess and just removed the dome. I now can switch between an external HD feed or the Trav'ler with my A/B switch and not have to reset the DVR. I thought I would miss the in-motion part of it but found that I really don't.
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Thats exactly why I want the 2 boxes, I actualy read one of your other posts on this topic. Also I have kids who really like the in motion, if it we just me, I'd probably go one box. My buddies who are more into sports all have a game going on that TV up front going down the road so its all about what you want. Thx
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Yep, in that case you can program ne box for SD and the other for HD so youer plan will work out just fine. The only drawbacks are the monthly cost of the second box as well as the physical space needed to locate it.

If only they made an HD in-motion dome for DirecTV. That would solve many problems. It would be possible to set it u[p with KA band LNBs but the multiple satellites would probably results in a dome the size of a VW Beetle. That might be a bit big to put on the roof.

There are flat phased arrays that could probably work. They are thin like a solar panel and are commonly used to slap on SUV roofs and are fairly small so probably don't get HD feeds. But they are only good for in-motion use. Once you park, rain, dew, and everything else lays on the flat panel and the signal gets blocked so that isn't the answer for an RV either. I predict that we'll be stuck with existing dome technology for quite some time.
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Good advice. Our plan is to stay at RVOne (Orlando RV...I think they must go by three or four names) for a couple of days and in the area there for a couple weeks to shake things out. Everything we read here is that every coach has a few "issues". So we'll learn a little on site and then start our adventure.

Thanks for the new coach insight. We met the Strollo brothers at the Hershey show. They seem genuinely focused on customer service...sounds like you got it from them.

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That's why we bought from Lazydays. Same cost, but you can stay on the grounds at lazydays until you're cofortable with your coach and had the bugs worked out at least a little bit. I visited Orlando RV and was concerned with where you'd park when you pulled in, plus where do you stay when having the coach serviced???
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That's why we bought from Lazydays. Same cost, but you can stay on the grounds at lazydays until you're cofortable with your coach and had the bugs worked out at least a little bit. I visited Orlando RV and was concerned with where you'd park when you pulled in, plus where do you stay when having the coach serviced???
Good points...I will say though, I called to Lazy Days to take the driving course, and it is like they have adopted me. While I'm paying to be in the campground while there for the course and a few days "in between", they are giving us the course at no charge (may start charging non-Lazy Days buyers again in the near future, but for now...building good will I guess).

I have been happy with the Strollos and RVOne. The real test will be delivery next week; however, others who have been through delivery recently with RVOne have had good experiences. I'm expect the quality of the Entegra coach and the interaction I've had with the RVOne group to validate the positive experience I've had with the Stroll group thus far. As to future service, don't plan to spend that much time in Florida after the first month.
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