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08-23-2014, 08:39 PM
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D333RLT Tower
Texas Boomers Club Entegra Owners Club
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he most distressing issue (at least for me) was my wheel weighting. After all adjustments and with the coach at full operating loads, my right front wheel is at 9510 lbs while my left front is at 7950, on a 20,000 lb front end.
I find this very surprising. Are your AGM batteries on the left side as mine are? I thought that would skew the weight to the left, if anything. What's so heavy on the right front? I've not had a chance to weigh each wheel position; just each axle and felt safe in running 110# on the front. If each side were equal the Michelin table says I could run 95# so I'm being a little on the cautious side.
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08-23-2014, 09:10 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlovitt
he most distressing issue (at least for me) was my wheel weighting. After all adjustments and with the coach at full operating loads, my right front wheel is at 9510 lbs while my left front is at 7950, on a 20,000 lb front end.
I find this very surprising. Are your AGM batteries on the left side as mine are? I thought that would skew the weight to the left, if anything. What's so heavy on the right front? I've not had a chance to weigh each wheel position; just each axle and felt safe in running 110# on the front. If each side were equal the Michelin table says I could run 95# so I'm being a little on the cautious side.
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A few thoughts/questions...
1. What is the max weight your front tires are rated at?
2. could the added right side weight be related to the location of EPA equipment? (Grasping for straws on that one.)
3. How about location of fresh water tank? (More straws?)
4. Hidden rock collection maybe? LOL (Funny Spartan class story.)
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2006 2015 DSDP 4320 4369, FL Chassis, 2013 CR-V 2020 Jeep Overland, Blue Ox Avail, SMI AF1.
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08-23-2014, 09:51 PM
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Again, in the 45k that refrigerator is far enough forward on the passenger side, that it is going to impact passenger side weight. And a sufficient amount of white wine in the frig adds to the weight problem...while washing away away any perception of a problem
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2015 Cornerstone 45J
2020 Ford F-150 Lariat
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08-24-2014, 05:00 AM
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Dave is correct in pointing out that the 45k's refrigerator is towards the front of the coach. Add in the fact that there is a lot of quartz countertops on the right side as well and it starts to add up.
As to Don's question about the front tire rating, it really is about the front axle rating. That is 20,000 lbs. We are within spec, but a little closer than I would like to be to the max for that side. We were able to shift a bit of weight and probably took 150 lbs off the right side front but, that is pretty much the max we will be able to move.
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Ralph & Janet
2015 Cornerstone 45K
2013 Ford Explorer
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08-24-2014, 06:50 AM
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We have no complaints whatsoever about the ride on our Anthem. I am shocked that you are unhappy about the ride on your Cornerstone, as I thought that was one of the advantages of the K3 chassis.
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2013 Entegra Anthem 44SL
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08-24-2014, 07:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRUSA14
We have no complaints whatsoever about the ride on our Anthem. I am shocked that you are unhappy about the ride on your Cornerstone, as I thought that was one of the advantages of the K3 chassis.
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I don't believe I ever said I was "unhappy" with the ride in my Cornerstone. When I picked up my coach at LD, the tire pressures were set to the factory spec. With the front end tires set at 125 lbs, the ride was firm. Now that the pressure has been reset to 115 lbs, the ride is a bit softer.
I absolutely love the K3 chassis! Between the 600 Cummins and the Hadley Air System, what is not to like? . My only concern was with the weight difference from the right to left side and, according to Spartan, the Hadley will adjust the ride height to keep things level.
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08-24-2014, 07:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRUSA14
We have no complaints whatsoever about the ride on our Anthem. I am shocked that you are unhappy about the ride on your Cornerstone, as I thought that was one of the advantages of the K3 chassis.
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Marc,
Can't speak to the 45K, but I found the ride of the 45J to be much "softer" than the Anthem (which I would never criticize either). The main difference I'd say is I felt every bump with the Anthem; the CS is simply much smoother. And the power and acceleration differences are significant for sure. Air ride and handling are just different. I'd like to see them add that to Anthem, as other coaches in the 450HP class have. it does make a nice difference in ride. JMHO
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08-24-2014, 08:14 AM
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D333RLT Tower
Texas Boomers Club Entegra Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky_Boss
A few thoughts/questions...
1. What is the max weight your front tires are rated at?
2. could the added right side weight be related to the location of EPA equipment? (Grasping for straws on that one.)
3. How about location of fresh water tank? (More straws?)
4. Hidden rock collection maybe? LOL (Funny Spartan class story.)
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1. Fronts are well within rating.
2. EPA (DEF) system and tank are aft of tag so, if any effect, would tend to unload front axle.
3. H2O tank is centered just forward of duals.
4. No rock collection; just wife's shoes but they are aft of tag also.
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08-24-2014, 11:54 AM
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I was looking at a Cornerstone 2013 and weighed it on a CAT scale. i did not get corner weights but front was near the limits. I know the axle is rated for 16500 not 20000 lbs.
Salesman was driving and he was a big boy( I was not in the coach). I am surprised that the 2015 was so heavy on the front.
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08-24-2014, 03:06 PM
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D333RLT Tower
Texas Boomers Club Entegra Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ms911
I was looking at a Cornerstone 2013 and weighed it on a CAT scale. i did not get corner weights but front was near the limits. I know the axle is rated for 16500 not 20000 lbs.
Salesman was driving and he was a big boy( I was not in the coach). I am surprised that the 2015 was so heavy on the front.
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Not sure about '13's but 14's and 15's have 20,000 front axle.
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