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Old 05-12-2013, 07:59 AM   #29
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The spartan course was excellent last week. There were a couple of points made by the instructors at the course that I will pass on. Please remember these are just comments that were made at the class and should not be taken out of context or as what you should do with your coach. You should go to the class and develop your own style. Buy all means never do something in our on your coach that your are not comfortable with.

1. Spartan says brakes will last on their chassis for 300,000 miles. Use them! If you baby the brakes they will have a tendency to glaze. Glazing is a process where the glue that holds the shoes or pads on the brake pads floats to the top. If you are using your J brake all the time and are not heating up the brakes to stop you will not burn off the glaze. It will lead to squeaking and possible premature failure. Also your brakes are self adjusting, by using them (hitting the pedal a little harder) they adjust themselves.
2. If you use your j brake all the time you are not using your brakes. J brakes are to be used in mountain and hill environment, not exiting highways and city traffic. Also not on slick wet roads for safety reasons.
3. You don't have to warm up your motor. Start it and as soon as the air is up go.
4. To break in your new motor run the motor on hills etc... Push the motor hard possibly by downshifting etc.. going up a large hill. The same philosophy applies to the motor as to the brakes. It appears if you just think about mileage and baby the motor during break in you are not helping the break in process. It makes sense to me if you push the motor, it will heat up work a little harder and that will allow seals and rings to seat properly.

So that is my take away on one section of the class. Others in the class may offer other takes on what they learned. I am not suggesting that everyone go out and do the above. You know your driving habits and your limitations. You may be on your 6th coach and you broke them your way and you disagree with spartan. I am just the messenger

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Old 05-12-2013, 07:52 PM   #30
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I'll be darn! Who would have known all that without the course! I will be "changing up" some of my driving habits. Thanks so much for the info from school. Ron.

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Old 05-12-2013, 08:58 PM   #31
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I'll be darn! Who would have known all that without the course! I will be "changing up" some of my driving habits. Thanks so much for the info from school. Ron.

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One of the strengths in the course is not only fixing these issues Mike points out in the way we drive our coaches, but also in the "why"s. You come away from the course with a better understanding of what your chassis is telling you as you drive it and when your chassis is telling you something is not right.

The course tells you how to set your brakes, and gives you a much better understanding of the air brake system we rely on. You learn how the ABS and ATC work (for instance, the ATC is always on...the depressed toggle on the left is only needed in mud or deep snow and should not be depressed).

In our closing session with the training team, a senior Spartan exec, and the liaison with Entegra is that this similar understanding is needed with the chassis and coach interface, and with the coach itself...a lesson that will likely be repeated to our coach builder as well, by more than one of us.

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