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11-12-2017, 03:59 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Orlando, FL
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Palazzo minimum temperature
I am about to leave sunny Florida for a trip through the continental United States (and I've never driven a motor home). Family commitments require that I leave at the beginning of November. I would like to hear of other's experiences with their Palazzos at low temperatures. We will be moving constantly, spending typically just a night or two at each campground, and thus will not be winterized. In another thread suggestions included: Use a wireless remote thermometer with the sensor in the wet bay.
Use a small heater such as 200 watt MyHeat or 100 watt light bulb in a "trouble light" to add heat in the wet bay. At what temperatures have you experienced frozen water lines or other problems?
Many thanks,
a couple rookies.
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11-12-2017, 05:12 PM
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Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Cincinnati
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The electric heater was for RVs that don't have heated wet bays. I believe your Palazzo does. The small heater and an extension cord might be a good idea as a backup, but I'd check and see what the RV is equipped with. Most folks get into trouble that don't realize their LP furnace also provides heat for the wet bay and try to use electric space heaters instead of the furnace to save LP gas.
Inside the RV, at night you might open any cabinet doors that lead to plumbing so heat gets into those spaces.
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Bob & Donna
'98 Gulf Stream Sun Voyager DP being pushed by a '00 Beetle TDI
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11-12-2017, 05:25 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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Cold Weather
We have spent a number of nights in temperatures in the high teens to low twenties. All of the above are good suggestions. We use a small electric heater in the wet bay in extreme conditions,
We also use a couple of electric heaters inside to coach to supplement the propane furnace. The furnace will use a lot of propane in cold conditions. As long as your plugged in used the electricity.
Driving in cold weather can be challenging as well, the panel heat will not keep the coach warm. In cold weather we added a curtain behind the front seats to keep whatever heat coming from the panel in the cockpit area.
On occasion we have run with the generator on and an electric heater between the seats.
I would also suggest keeping hat, gloves and coats close by.
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Keith & Beth
Southeast Michigan
Phaeton 40AH
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11-12-2017, 11:44 PM
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Thor Owners Club
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Location: Tulsa, OK
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Agree with comments by mcbeth. We spent one night down to 8F a couple winters ago—Gallup, NM on way to Phoenix. No frozen pipes or issues other than using plenty of propane to heat.
You should be fine. Just remember to dress warmly if driving sub zero.
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Formerly 2018 Thor Tuscany 40RT ("Artie")
Formerly 2015 Thor Palazzo 33.3 ("Marco")
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11-12-2017, 11:48 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: SoCal
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Small electric heaters (~200w) and thermocubes in wet bay and other risk areas when camp with power connection.
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Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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11-13-2017, 10:31 AM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Orlando, FL
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Sincerest thanks
I want to thank all those who have responded to my query about traveling in our Palazzo at low temperatures. I'm sure that you have saved us great suffering.
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11-13-2017, 12:59 PM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Fishers, IN
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Congrats and best wishes on your upcoming travels and journey. Be sure to start a new thread or continue this one to chronicle your trip across the US.
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2021 Tiffin Breeze 33BR
2013 Honda CrV
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11-13-2017, 03:52 PM
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Gulf Streamers Club
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Location: Cincinnati
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Many folks don't understand that many outside 'hydrants' used in campgrounds resist freezing by burying the actual shut off valve deep below the frost line. When turned off, water drains out of the standing pipe and resist freezing. If you leave a hose connected and On, the water can freeze in the hose or, with a heated hose, the water can still freeze in the unheated parts of the hydrant. Many campgrounds that stay open in winter have rules about leaving a hose connected.
Same for the sewer, I'd never leave the slinky connected as we do in summer, too easy to end up with a frozen poopcicle. Drain and stow until needed for hoses and sewer drains is the only safe way to winter camp.
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Bob & Donna
'98 Gulf Stream Sun Voyager DP being pushed by a '00 Beetle TDI
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11-13-2017, 05:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
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If your Palazzo is anything like ours, the basement storage bays are the warmest part of the RV while using the furnace.
We have very little warm air flowing to the full bath in back, but when I pop a storage bay door it feels like a sauna in there.
So long as you are using the furnace, you should be fine.
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11-13-2017, 05:59 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Grand Island, FL
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Many places shut water off during the night when temps are to drop below freezing. So plan on not connecting water and operating off tanks.
One other thing we did. We used the shop light incandescent bulb route. Added a remote control on/off and put a remote thermometer in the water bay. We could monitor the temps and if we needed to turn on heat we had the remote control switch to switch the light on. Worked for us.
Where our unit heater thermostat is located (on wall outside the bathroom and heater) it doesn't come on when cold without some prompting, because the bathroom is toasty warm.
Good luck and have a safe trip.
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11-15-2017, 10:12 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Driving in the cold
We picked up our 33.2 in Chicago and drove it to Northern California in April. We had freezing temps and blowing snow on Day 2 of I80 till Rawlings.
The greatest Oh ____ moment was driving with a snow bank on the right and the defroster could not keep up. The front windshield was becoming opaque. I started the generator and my wife got out her electric hair dryer, which worked well enough to make it possible to continue.
We also had the propane regulator valve freeze one cold night. This has never happened again.
Safe travels.
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2015 Palazzo 33.2
Magalia, CA
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11-19-2017, 08:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Early, TX
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Thermostat in Hall
The hallway wall where the thermostats are mounted gets pretty warm in our Palazzo as does the hall bathroom (33.3). This causes the thermostat to read falsely. I put spacers (3/16") under the mounting screws to separate the thermo from the surface of the wall. Haven't used it since the mod but it should help.
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11-19-2017, 09:03 AM
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Senior Member
Gulf Streamers Club
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Location: Cincinnati
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safetysteve5
The hallway wall where the thermostats are mounted gets pretty warm in our Palazzo as does the hall bathroom (33.3). This causes the thermostat to read falsely. I put spacers (3/16") under the mounting screws to separate the thermo from the surface of the wall. Haven't used it since the mod but it should help.
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What causes the interior wall to get warm?
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Bob & Donna
'98 Gulf Stream Sun Voyager DP being pushed by a '00 Beetle TDI
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11-19-2017, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Sedona, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safetysteve5
The hallway wall where the thermostats are mounted gets pretty warm in our Palazzo as does the hall bathroom (33.3). This causes the thermostat to read falsely. I put spacers (3/16") under the mounting screws to separate the thermo from the surface of the wall. Haven't used it since the mod but it should help.
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We have a Challenger, not a Palazzo, but the same issue with the hall thermostat falsely reading warm enough. There were two problems causing this in ours. One was the bathroom right behind that wall was way overheated until we replaced the vent with one that was adjustable. Second, there is a vent just below the thermostat on ours. We added a diverter to the vent so the warm air is pushed away from the thermostat wall. Problem solved.
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Shell Bleiweiss
2014 1/2 Thor Challenger 37KT
Sedona, AZ
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