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08-17-2014, 11:37 PM
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Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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Using A/C with the generator
This is a newbie question, and yes I am a newbie!!! We just picked up our MH and drove it home. We only have a 20amp circuit so I know I can't run the a/c from plugging into the house, but I tried and it ran for a few minutes and tripped the breaker in the garage. Easy fix reset the breaker and turned the a/c off. So then unplugged the MH from the house, started the generator, turned on the inverter , refrige runs and micro wave lights up but still no a/c. I know a/c worked at the dealer several weeks ago on the generator, and the a/c was running when we picked it up when plugged into the 50amp service at the dealer. So I figure I am missing a switch somewhere. Any help would be appreciated.
Just for laughs, I pulled into fuel up and that was the first time I had been the one opening the door. Felt like a life time but I finally pulled the right lever, the guy waiting to pump the fuel in said "just picked it up" had to say "yes", you could see the dealer down the road. Won't have that problem again, but I bet there are a few more waiting for me. Enjoyed reading the posts from this group, hope to see some of you around. Gary
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08-17-2014, 11:49 PM
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Don't much about your particular coach, but I've had an occasional breaker issue on my Fiver when I overloaded a circuit. Yours may have tripped one of two if it's set up the same on your generator.
Congrats and happy trails.
DTW
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08-18-2014, 04:18 AM
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Using a/c with the generator
Look on the front part of your generator and see if the breaker on it is thrown. Should be right beside the start switch. Will need that crazy big flat sided (round on bottom) key to open front of coach.
AC won't run on inverter .
Russell
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08-18-2014, 06:11 AM
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Thor Owners Club
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20 amp service at home
I too at this time only able to plug into a 20 amp circuit at home. Make sure the following is turned off inside coach before you plug in: - Engine block heater. Switch on my 33.2 is on side of rear bed with a indicator light as to what position it is in.
- Electric hot water switch. located on control panel.
Keep the invertor on. Circuit will sense the ouside current and perform a switch over. Monitor the control panel for "Bulk Charging" and see if fridge is running. {Fridge is protected with bathroom GFI outlet also].
Now turn on only one A/C unit. It should run with no problem. If you trip the home breaker, shut off A/C unit before resetting breaker. A/C unit that was just turned off has a delay circuit that will take a few minutes to recycle before being turned on.
When starting generator, allow it to stabilize before turning anything on. It will take over all of the 110 volt appliances and charge battery at same time. Look at control panel for the "Bulk Charging mode" when circuit switches over.[ same for when plugged in at home]. Then with generator running and all is charging you will be able to use both A/C's. Under front hood, on generator next to rocker start switch is the generator breaker FYI.
Note to the Newbie: In really hot weather, the dash A/C running off engine doesn't really cut it. So for comfort you could allow generator to run with both A/C's running to get to the level of comfort needed as you are driving.
Good luck with new coach!
Don
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08-18-2014, 06:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Voyage
I too at this time only able to plug into a 20 amp circuit at home. Make sure the following is turned off inside coach before you plug in: - Engine block heater. Switch on my 33.2 is on side of rear bed with a indicator light as to what position it is in.
- Electric hot water switch. located on control panel.
Keep the invertor on. Circuit will sense the ouside current and perform a switch over. Monitor the control panel for "Bulk Charging" and see if fridge is running. {Fridge is protected with bathroom GFI outlet also].
Now turn on only one A/C unit. It should run with no problem. If you trip the home breaker, shut off A/C unit before resetting breaker. A/C unit that was just turned off has a delay circuit that will take a few minutes to recycle before being turned on.
When starting generator, allow it to stabilize before turning anything on. It will take over all of the 110 volt appliances and charge battery at same time. Look at control panel for the "Bulk Charging mode" when circuit switches over.[ same for when plugged in at home]. Then with generator running and all is charging you will be able to use both A/C's. Under front hood, on generator next to rocker start switch is the generator breaker FYI.
Note to the Newbie: In really hot weather, the dash A/C running off engine doesn't really cut it. So for comfort you could allow generator to run with both A/C's running to get to the level of comfort needed as you are driving.
Good luck with new coach!
Don
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Well done Don,
I will add if you are in the Wal-mart parking lot or driving down the road with both A/Cs running off the generator don't running the microwave! That will overload the generator and throw it's breaker too.
Further note to the Newbie: Now ask yourself how we know all of this. You will learn not only how open your door and manage your power, but a whole lot of other things. Some of us that have been through it will always be glad to help.
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08-18-2014, 01:08 PM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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20 amps should be enough to run the A/C but... On a modern coach that may only be possible once the batteries are full up.
Explanation:
My coach the converter is a Progressie Dynamics Intella-power 9180 with wizard,, IF the batteries are low this puppy can suck 10-12 amps easy.
The A/C sucks 13.5
Thats more than 20
Once the batteries are full up, current draw by the converter goes down.. By Down I mean like low single digit 1,2,3) add 13.5 and the 20 amp breaker holds solid. Fridge draws around 3-4 amps on A/C.
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08-18-2014, 07:52 PM
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08-18-2014, 07:55 PM
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In case it is not clear from previous posts, the inverter is only for use when you don't have shore power or generator. With generator running you have enough power for both A/C. You cannot run A/C on inverter.
Another thing to check is the Use/store switch to make sure the 12V system is active.
The ability to run generator and A/C while driving is great.
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08-20-2014, 04:38 PM
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Thank you everyone you nailed it. The breaker was tripped on the generator, a/c works now on to the next issue. Maybe we should call this the newbie corner. Thanks again Gary
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08-20-2014, 06:44 PM
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Don't feel bad. Stopped at test area to have lunch. Shut off gen to check oil and must have bumped the switch . Did not take long for the microwave to crater . Drove me nuts for a while until I retracedy steps on what I did and found the switch on the gen. Happy day
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08-20-2014, 07:24 PM
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You can run one AC on. 20amp shore power... Though make sure the RV is the only thing on the circuit. Also, your 120v extension cable should be 10 gauge wire, those 12/14 gauge extension are not gonna cut it.
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08-21-2014, 01:06 AM
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DIDO on the Redridge post, I'd like to add that DW fryed an ac on too small of an extension cord once.....
DTW
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