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10-23-2017, 10:37 PM
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Some info on ply ratings and how they relate to modern tires.
Ply Rating for Tires | What is Ply Rating
For what is is worth G rated tires are the equivalent of 14 ply & H rated are the new 16 ply.
The smallest H rated tire I could find a 245/70x19.5.
My G rated tires are stout enough for anything I have thrown at them over the lay 90K.
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10-24-2017, 06:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickeoni
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I was referring to easier penetrating based on the size of a sidewall on an ST tire very an LT tire. Looking at the pictures of both, the LT tire has a much shorter actual sidewall when compared to the new goodyear endurance tire. The ST tire has a very square tread vs sidewall setup, vs the LT tire where the tread wraps further down the sidewall. This is why all terrain tires especially those with Kevlar reinforced sidewalls do so well off road.
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Based on my research the best tires for my use are the Bridgestone Duravis R250.
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I can certainly see that an All-Terrain LT-E tire with "tread wraps further down the sidewall" would be more resistant to sidewall punctures on rough off-road trips.
But I'm still not sure of the benefit of a Highway Rib LT-E tire (like the Michelin Rib or Bridgestone Duravis R250) riding on road, compared to the similarly sized, newer ST-Es. And off-road, it would have a similar amount of exposed sidewall as the ST-Es, with none of the benefits of a an All Terrain LT-E tire.
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10-24-2017, 08:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brulaz
I can certainly see that an All-Terrain LT-E tire with "tread wraps further down the sidewall" would be more resistant to sidewall punctures on rough off-road trips.
But I'm still not sure of the benefit of a Highway Rib LT-E tire (like the Michelin Rib or Bridgestone Duravis R250) riding on road, compared to the similarly sized, newer ST-Es. And off-road, it would have a similar amount of exposed sidewall as the ST-Es, with none of the benefits of a an All Terrain LT-E tire.
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There are no benefits for off road with a highway rib tire, I was looking at the Duravis because of the speed rating. Witn the release of the new Goodyear Endurance having a N speed rating there might be a change of thinking.
As far a going on adventuring (off road) trips, We still have our TC. The height and turning radius of the fiver can be an issue of some of the rougher paths.
Not to mention easier to clean.
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10-24-2017, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickeoni
As far a going on adventuring (off road) trips, We still have our TC. The height and turning radius of the fiver can be an issue of some of the rougher paths.
Not to mention easier to clean.
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Nice.
Much more suitable for off-road camping than a trailer. By off-road I mean off-road, not rough roads.
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10-24-2017, 09:58 AM
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Wouldn't dare take a trailer on a road like this.
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10-24-2017, 10:09 AM
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When hunting, I use a TC. I'm an old phart and packing up a wall tent camp got to be a bit much for me by myself. The quad, a 78mph scooter for an old hunter , goes in a utility trailer. BC ferries charge for over length but not over height , so we use the TC to go to the Vancouver Island as well.
The LTs under the Creekside 20FQ are rated to 112mph . It's nice being able to do the speed limit, no matter how high it is. I joke, "If I wanted to watch grass grow, I'ld drive a gasser."
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10-24-2017, 02:03 PM
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Being of limited funds it is the trailer or the wall tent if I am headed out. I don’t mean to imply by my signature that I truly go cross country or off road. Most places, even out west, don’t want you heading off making your own road. You are expected to stay on existing roads and trails. That said, I do tend to go down some BLM roads and forest service roads that are not as well maintained. Everything has tradeoffs. I probably would have gotten a larger trailer but I knew it wouldn’t always fit into some of the smaller and tighter spots I like going to. I tried to keep track this year and I counted five spots this summer I wouldn’t have fit in with a larger trailer. Rickeoni’s solution would get me into even tighter spots, my ATV with a tent even more remote areas and a backpack even better. All things being a trade off I keep trying to think of ways to make the comfort of my ORV go deeper and farther. The tires have been a limiting factor, but there are other limitations as well.
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10-24-2017, 02:29 PM
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We camp in BC Forest Service Rec Sites a lot. When we got the 20FQ, I thought no problem, the last tent trailer was 11', so it's only 9' more. I was dead wrong. Our '13 has a short tongue, making the trailer act like a much longer one. One of the projects is a more normal length tongue. The truck doesn't help. I met a fellow in the Ford version, He said his truck had the turning radius of a battleship. I've been using that line ever since.
The camper was '99, that I 've rebuilt.
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10-24-2017, 03:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downwindtrac
We camp in BC Forest Service Rec Sites a lot. When we got the 20FQ, I thought no problem, the last tent trailer was 11', so it's only 9' more. I was dead wrong. Our '13 has a short tongue, making the trailer act like a much longer one. One of the projects is a more normal length tongue. The truck doesn't help. I met a fellow in the Ford version, He said his truck had the turning radius of a battleship. I've been using that line ever since.
The camper was '99, that I 've rebuilt.
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That is one of the reasons I love my F450, the turing radius is much less that my previous short box F250., constantly amazes people.
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