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03-24-2019, 02:09 PM
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Jack it up!
New Blackrock 24KTS owner...need to be able to change flat tire. Has anyone spoken with Outdoors as to preferred way jack up. The frame rail is very high and on the right side the propane line runs along frame rail. Appreciate your help!
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03-24-2019, 02:23 PM
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Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Kennewick, WA
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Best way is jack under axle at spring mount. Almost the same as trailer sitting on ground. Small hyd jack will do easily. Frame is too high to easily use jack as you note, and the axle and tire will drop as frame is lifted. And should never jack right on axle tube inside of the springs.
I carry a short 6 ton hyd bottle jack and have used a couple of times in the past. Just need to make sure the jack has the travel to lift axle high enough to get a good tire back on!!! They're taller than the flat one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-24-2019, 02:35 PM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
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Location: Pasco, WA
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TrailerAid works for my emergency tire/wheel problems.
Bob
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03-24-2019, 02:46 PM
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Andersen rapid jack works well
Also consider using your existing lynx blocks to make a ramp to drive the good tire up on to raise the flat tire
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2016 RAM 3500 6.7L DRW
2018 Chaparral 360IBL, Andersen Ultimate II hitch
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03-24-2019, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
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Trailer aid works on our GP.
https://youtu.be/zb6NCLxOaDo
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03-25-2019, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickeoni
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How tall of a block would you need to get one of the wheels off the ground? I have the Timber Ridge with the MorRyde 3000 suspension. When I'm on a long trip and need to either change a tire or for when I need to lube the fittings, that might be easier than using a bottle jack. I got the Lynx Levelers where I could get up 4".
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03-25-2019, 11:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Superslif
How tall of a block would you need to get one of the wheels off the ground? I have the Timber Ridge with the MorRyde 3000 suspension. When I'm on a long trip and need to either change a tire or for when I need to lube the fittings, that might be easier than using a bottle jack. I got the Lynx Levelers where I could get up 4".
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This is the basic trailer saver and I tested it out a couple of years ago to see it it works before I had a roadside situation. It lifts the tire off the ground just enough to pull off a fully inflated tire. IMHO if I was stuck on the side of the road this would be quicker and safer than a jack.
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03-25-2019, 11:48 AM
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So basically you are either pulling forward or backing up on to some blocks or ramp with your good tire. This will rise the flat tire enough to change.
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03-25-2019, 11:55 AM
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What about wheel/axle articulation, especially with the off road suspensions?
In regards to jacking, the factory told me to use the frame.
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03-25-2019, 12:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickeoni
This is the basic trailer saver and I tested it out a couple of years ago to see it it works before I had a roadside situation. It lifts the tire off the ground just enough to pull off a fully inflated tire. IMHO if I was stuck on the side of the road this would be quicker and safer than a jack.
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Read where the tire ramp typically works with tandem axles 30” or less apart. My 5200lb axles are 36” apart. I have to assume many of you have same set up. Are the tire ramps working for you? Thanks!
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03-25-2019, 01:49 PM
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I use the Andersen Rapid Jack. Similar in concept to the above mentioned Trailer Aid. Works very well and is easier (and possibly safer?) than jacking.
ONE CAVEAT: If the tire you are driving the Rapid Jack/Trailer Aid up onto isn't fully inflated, it will probably still raise the trailer high enough to get the flat tire off, but likely not high enough to get the fully inflated spare tire mounted. Trust me on this one. I blew one tire completely and put a hole in the other and by the time I got the blown tire off, the other tire had leaked enough air that I no longer had enough height to mount the inflated spare.
In addition to the Rapid Jack, I now carry a bottle jack. And a tire plugging kit. And a compressor. And I have a TPMS...
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03-25-2019, 04:17 PM
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If not using a ramp style "jack", I would still go with a jack under the spring plate. Esp with the "off road' suspension. Jacking under the frame you will need a taller jack, or more blocks (unsteady??), and when the frame goes up, the axle and tire stay down!! You're going to have that side of the trailer jacked up quite a ways compared to lifting under the axle spring plate. Axle goes up and wheel and tire go right along!!! Just my opinion and experience.
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03-25-2019, 05:02 PM
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if I was stuck on the side of the road this would be quicker and safer than a jack.
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I agree.
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If not using a ramp style "jack", I would still go with a jack under the spring plate. Esp with the "off road' suspension.
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So under the spring plate is the right place to jack if your using a bottle jack?
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03-25-2019, 07:44 PM
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I have a 24KTS and struggled with this issue as well. I now carry a 12 ton bottle jack and use a couple of 12x12x1” wood blocks under the jack. The head of the jack hits the center of the frame rail just to the outside of the propane line. I have plenty of lift with this setup to lift the tires off the ground. I am nervous about lifting my trailer under the axle in any location but know lots of people who swear by it.
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