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Old 06-23-2018, 05:55 PM   #1
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Propane pigtail leaking

Have had my 18DB since spring 2017 and a part of my propane pigtails were leaking. Luckily i was not off grid on this trip and close to civilization.

Found that a little rubberish grommet on both pigtails had rotted away.

I have 40 lb tanks so i dont use the cover. However i have a tray that sits over my tanks that shades them from the sun. You can see it in my pics in my hyperlink in my signature.

Anyway was super suprised that hoses were fine but it was this grommet. Went to camping world and got replacements. They dont have this rubberish grommet/seal thingy. The replacements are made in the USA.
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You are not alone....replace both of my pigtails 2 months ago on our 2016.

Got them on Amazon....made in china of course! Hate Cramping World.

Must be the California ozone
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Did your replacements have the rubber grommet thing? I was pleased to see the replacements did not have that fail point. They had a stainless steel version but only had one.
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Did your replacements have the rubber grommet thing? I was pleased to see the replacements did not have that fail point. They had a stainless steel version but only had one.
My old ones had the same pigtail as yours....ORV supplier.

My new ones have a stainless washer setup. Might last longer. I only discovered it because I was doing a full trailer soap water test of all the fittings.
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Ok yeah i turned on when we got to the beach. We are dry camping so went to get shower tokens when i came back i could hear the leak and was like wtf is going on, swapped tanks and that one leaked! Pulled them off and saw the problem. Of course after hours of camping world so good news had the yeti and pulled all the drinks out put all fridge stuff in it and it all stayed nice and cold. Camping world only 30 mins away. I may get those stainless jobbers and keep these as spares.

So glad we weren’t in BFE!
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The top pic of your ACME Nut is the 'older' version of connector for the Type 1 Valve (OPD Valve).


It was replaced with a newer version of ACME Nut as shown in your other pic. several years ago.
ORV must have a huge stock pile of the older versions...'NOS' (New Old Stock)



That 'grommet thing' is actually a thermal bushing that melts when exposed to temps of 240*F PLUS.
Part of the safety features in that ACME Nut
When it melts it allows the spring loaded shutoff valve in the OPD connection to push the ACME Nut stud back and stop propane flow from cylinders


Also inside that ACME Nut is a 'excess flow limiting' device----spring assisted ball bearing that will partially close off flow thru ACME Nut IF a downstream line should burst/get broken etc.
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Thanks for the intel. Sounds like whomever there supplier was sold them some crap stuff if its rotting away in 18 mos.
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If you are willing, send your pics to Todd Morton at ORV. He is the Service manager there. His email is todd.morton@outdoorsrvmfg.com.

This is a potential safety issue, and they need to know about it. My valves and connections to the tanks are enclosed....no exposure to the sun. Must be a defective material issue.

Thanks for your post and feedback.
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You are not alone....replace both of my pigtails 2 months ago on our 2016.

Got them on Amazon....made in china of course! Hate Cramping World.

Must be the California ozone
I was surprised that ours were leaking within the first year. Ordered 2 new pigtails on Amazon and haven't had an issue since.
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I was surprised that ours were leaking within the first year. Ordered 2 new pigtails on Amazon and haven't had an issue since.


Are yours enclosed in the cover or outside?
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Mine is inside a cabinet with a door like all fifth wheels. Not sure if travel trailers all have covers over them.

You can see that the cheap rubber grommet is deteriorated. I caught my leak before it got really bad.....noticed the gage in the regulator was not staying in green very long.....soap water showed a significant leak at both joints.

Word to the wise I guess.
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Are yours enclosed in the cover or outside?
Mine are behind a door in a storage area on the drivers side of our 5th wheel.
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Pretty sure my 2014 (built and bought in 2013) has the 2nd picture pigtails with NO rubber washer.
But I'm not near the trailer so can't verify for sure.
Did ORV change suppliers? If so why revert to the older standard?
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Had my Creekside since fall, 2016. Replaced lines Sept. 2017 because of leakage. Pricey little puppies.

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