Tires And Wheels On New ORV F26RKS

[45Auto]

well, canceled the order on the new Fox Mountain 225! Pick up a new 2018 ORV F26RKS next week! Once again, disappointed with the industry standard of doing with less, in the form of tires and wheels. this unit clocks in at 12995 lbs. OK, it's a 16" wheel and tire LRE, but a 6 bolt pattern! what the heck is up with that? Why I ask, probably to save a few greenbacks! Here lies my dilemma, I have a BRAND NEW SET OF 15" wheels and tires, of which I had the new wheels powder coated, and the tires are ST225/75R/15 LRF!! Yes, F! Those were for the Fox Mountain to replace the LRD I thought were coming on that rig, only to see the 225 FM now comes with 15" LRE, Hmm, I still see and hear people popping their LRE tires!
Now, let me hear it from you all, I want your opinions, honestly. I have considered putting on the F rated 15" tires on that ORV. The F rated tires is capable of 3150 lbs. per. Trailer GVWR 12995 lbs. bout 2025 lbs. Pin WT. = Trailer WT. of 10970 GVW. Tires, 3150X's 4 = 12600lbs. -10970lbs. =1630 lbs. This give me a safety margin 407 lbs. per wheel. but 15" wheels!
On the FM, at 11500 GVWR and Pin wt. of 1995 it would have given me something like 764 lbs. of safety margin per wheel.

Am I missing something here? Or confusing my self because it's a dual axel?

[Rickeoni]

The 235/80x16 E tires have a load rating of 3420 LBS, Are they the new Goodyear Endurance tires or the older Marathon style?

[NW_Traveler]

My 2018 F28RKS came with 16" Goodyear Endurance. Hope they deserve a better reputation than the Marathons and it's not just a rebranding effort....

[45Auto]

Originally Posted by Rickeoni

The 235/80x16 E tires have a load rating of 3420 LBS, Are they the new Goodyear Endurance tires or the older Marathon style?

Endurance.

[brulaz]

Never had a problem with Marathons, and the Endurance are supposed to be a better tire with higher speed rating and made in the USA. They're new so there's not much experience with them. But I would stick with them.

[Wood Chip]

Originally Posted by Rickeoni

The 235/80x16 E tires have a load rating of 3420 LBS, Are they the new Goodyear Endurance tires or the older Marathon style?

I changed out my Marathons the 1st year. They are a ticking time bomb according to most. The Michelin Ribs are a good alternative and work for out axel ratings. I hope the endurance is the answer to an issue that has been around for a long time

[Mike23]

My 2015 GP 26RLS (same 12995 GVWR) came with 16" wheels and ST 235/80R16 LRE GY Marathons. After 2 years without any issues, I decided to get new tires. ORV supplied me the name of the wheel/tire supplier and I called and talked with a tech rep. He stated that their wheels were rated at 3200lbs ea (also stamped on wheel) BUT were pressure rated to 110psi. He said ALL their aluminum wheels had same pressure rating. That said, it was no question for me and I pulled the trigger on 5 new Sailun ST235/80R16 LRG tires.

After over 6000 miles of towing, I couldn't be happier. Still playing around with tire pressures. I've run 110 psi, 100 psi and 90 psi. Only difference I see is a slight increase in tire temp (via temp gun) with a decrease in pressure which is understandable. According to Sailun engineer, de-rating the tire has no adverse effect on tire life.

BTW, trailer GW is scaled at 12000, with 9400 on the axles. Yes, I'm maxed out on my GMC 2500HD!, but still under RAWR.

Travel Safe,
Mike

[Wood Chip]

2600 lbs + - on the pin is consistent with what I see. That took up my entire allowable load as my yellow sticker is approx 2300 lbs. by the time my truck was loaded with body's etc, there was an additional 1000lbs. I just ordered a new dually because of these weight ssues.

[45Auto]

[QUOTE=Mike23;3650892]My 2015 GP 26RLS (same 12995 GVWR) came with 16" wheels and ST 235/80R16 LRE GY Marathons. After 2 years without any issues, I decided to get new tires. ORV supplied me the name of the wheel/tire supplier and I called and talked with a tech rep. He stated that their wheels were rated at 3200lbs ea (also stamped on wheel) BUT were pressure rated to 110psi. He said ALL their aluminum wheels had same pressure rating. That said, it was no question for me and I pulled the trigger on 5 new Sailun ST235/80R16 LRG tires.

After over 6000 miles of towing, I couldn't be happier. Still playing around with tire pressures. I've run 110 psi, 100 psi and 90 psi. Only difference I see is a slight increase in tire temp (via temp gun) with a decrease in pressure which is understandable. According to Sailun engineer, de-rating the tire has no adverse effect on tire life.

BTW, trailer GW is scaled at 12000, with 9400 on the axles. Yes, I'm maxed out on my GMC 2500HD!, but still under RAWR.

Travel Safe,
Mike[/QUOTE

Go to green ball.com the have specialty wheels with higher ratings, they are the only ones who have a 15" wheel and LRF tire package. Now in on a 16" wheel with a LRE tire, my only complaint is it's a freaking 6 lug!

[dexters]

Originally Posted by 45Auto

well, canceled the order on the new Fox Mountain 225! Pick up a new 2018 ORV F26RKS next week! Once again, disappointed with the industry standard of doing with less, in the form of tires and wheels. this unit clocks in at 12995 lbs. OK, it's a 16" wheel and tire LRE, but a 6 bolt pattern! what the heck is up with that? Why I ask, probably to save a few greenbacks! Here lies my dilemma, I have a BRAND NEW SET OF 15" wheels and tires, of which I had the new wheels powder coated, and the tires are ST225/75R/15 LRF!! Yes, F! Those were for the Fox Mountain to replace the LRD I thought were coming on that rig, only to see the 225 FM now comes with 15" LRE, Hmm, I still see and hear people popping their LRE tires!
Now, let me hear it from you all, I want your opinions, honestly. I have considered putting on the F rated 15" tires on that ORV. The F rated tires is capable of 3150 lbs. per. Trailer GVWR 12995 lbs. bout 2025 lbs. Pin WT. = Trailer WT. of 10970 GVW. Tires, 3150X's 4 = 12600lbs. -10970lbs. =1630 lbs. This give me a safety margin 407 lbs. per wheel. but 15" wheels!
On the FM, at 11500 GVWR and Pin wt. of 1995 it would have given me something like 764 lbs. of safety margin per wheel.

Am I missing something here? Or confusing my self because it's a dual axel?

13,000 max
-2,000 pin
11,000 on axles

12,000 max axle

1,000 excess axle load available

What is the concern?

Are these the tires that come with the 5th rated for 3,420 and the ones you want to replace them with are rated for 3,150?

What am I missing here?

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...arathon+Radial

[45Auto]

Well, I think I'm embarrassed �� I will see the OEM tires tomorrow, 16's, and check the weight. Sounds like the LRE 16" is more than the 15F

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[Tireman9]

Originally Posted by 45Auto

well, canceled the order on the new Fox Mountain 225! Pick up a new 2018 ORV F26RKS next week! Once again, disappointed with the industry standard of doing with less, in the form of tires and wheels. this unit clocks in at 12995 lbs. OK, it's a 16" wheel and tire LRE, but a 6 bolt pattern! what the heck is up with that? Why I ask, probably to save a few greenbacks! Here lies my dilemma, I have a BRAND NEW SET OF 15" wheels and tires, of which I had the new wheels powder coated, and the tires are ST225/75R/15 LRF!! Yes, F! Those were for the Fox Mountain to replace the LRD I thought were coming on that rig, only to see the 225 FM now comes with 15" LRE, Hmm, I still see and hear people popping their LRE tires!
Now, let me hear it from you all, I want your opinions, honestly. I have considered putting on the F rated 15" tires on that ORV. The F rated tires is capable of 3150 lbs. per. Trailer GVWR 12995 lbs. bout 2025 lbs. Pin WT. = Trailer WT. of 10970 GVW. Tires, 3150X's 4 = 12600lbs. -10970lbs. =1630 lbs. This give me a safety margin 407 lbs. per wheel. but 15" wheels!
On the FM, at 11500 GVWR and Pin wt. of 1995 it would have given me something like 764 lbs. of safety margin per wheel.

Am I missing something here? Or confusing my self because it's a dual axel?

The regulations simply call for tires that can support the published GAWR when inflated to the specified pressure. With a public that shops on price the RV companies get as close as possible to he requirements so they can meet customer demands for lower pricing.
Have you considered pushing the RV dealer to place larger tires on a unit before you are willing to buy? Which dealers have units that meet your requirements for reserve load capacity on tires? Why don't you buy one of those units?

[dexters]

Originally Posted by Tireman9

The regulations simply call for tires that can support the published GAWR when inflated to the specified pressure. With a public that shops on price the RV companies get as close as possible to he requirements so they can meet customer demands for lower pricing.
Have you considered pushing the RV dealer to place larger tires on a unit before you are willing to buy? Which dealers have units that meet your requirements for reserve load capacity on tires? Why don't you buy one of those units?

Read post above yours.

[45Auto]

Originally Posted by Tireman9

The regulations simply call for tires that can support the published GAWR when inflated to the specified pressure. With a public that shops on price the RV companies get as close as possible to he requirements so they can meet customer demands for lower pricing.
Have you considered pushing the RV dealer to place larger tires on a unit before you are willing to buy? Which dealers have units that meet your requirements for reserve load capacity on tires? Why don't you buy one of those units?

Lol, none!