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Old 04-25-2019, 07:23 PM   #29
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My RV is all electric and I live north of Baltimore. I can go through the tunnel but never do. With my towd, it cost $24 each way. I don't mind going around which is 12 miles longer...
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:00 AM   #30
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I 10 tunnel near Phoenix Sky Harbor airport. I 17 has detour around tunnel. First time going west with motorhome towing car on I 10 the RV GPS said to go on I17- I said "nonsense" and directed my husband through 7 lanes of rush hour traffic to get back on I 10 at which point the tunnel restrictions came into view and he then had to track back over what was now 10 lanes of very heavy rush hour Phoenix traffic....
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I 10 tunnel near Phoenix Sky Harbor airport. I 17 has detour around tunnel. First time going west with motorhome towing car on I 10 the RV GPS said to go on I17- I said "nonsense" and directed my husband through 7 lanes of rush hour traffic to get back on I 10 at which point the tunnel restrictions came into view and he then had to track back over what was now 10 lanes of very heavy rush hour Phoenix traffic....


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Old 04-26-2019, 08:34 AM   #32
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LP prohibited.

Is there a site that lists all of these tunnels? Do these restrictions show up on an RV focused GPS unit? This obviously is fairly important.
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sorry, but anything that requires placarding is hazmat. Hazmat simply stands for hazardous material. Propane is placarded as a flammable gas with un number 1978.

I have many years of cfr 49 experience.
un 1075 ?
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Old 04-26-2019, 08:54 AM   #34
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Don't trust your RV GPS to know, ours insisted on taking us through the Baltimore tunnel even after we bailed at the last exit. Not a fun experience. Didn't give us the bypass Rte 695 until we were on 695!
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Old 04-26-2019, 09:11 AM   #35
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The Caldecott tunnel between Moraga and Oakland in N. Cal.
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LPG is not propane. 1978 is correct for propane. But these placarding requirements are for bulk transport, not an "in-use" tank on a vehicle.
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Old 04-26-2019, 09:53 AM   #37
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I 10 tunnel near Phoenix Sky Harbor airport. I 17 has detour around tunnel. First time going west with motorhome towing car on I 10 the RV GPS said to go on I17- I said "nonsense" and directed my husband through 7 lanes of rush hour traffic to get back on I 10 at which point the tunnel restrictions came into view and he then had to track back over what was now 10 lanes of very heavy rush hour Phoenix traffic....

RVs (ALL...shapes,sizes,configurations) are EXEMPT of the HAZMAT COMMERCIAL TRUCK Restriction for the Papago Freeway Tunnel (Deck Park Tunnel)


You could have gone happily on thru that tunnel


https://www.phoenix.gov/streetssite/...s/truckmap.pdf
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Can we get a little more specific on the RV GPS system (Garmin RV660LMT) for advising you about NO Propane routes and warnings. I know they are not always Gospel and you should your eyes (signs) as well but generally are they OK?

In fact I have been using it in the SUV with the RV setting just to see how it works. I already get a warning that says "NY propane off" but off is not the same as "NO propane". Haven't ventured off the island yet so maybe someone else knows if you get a separate "NO propane" warning?

This is an interesting topic for me as I live on Long "Island", New York. The OP started this thread with at least half of the ways off the Island being prohibited for a class A coach...lol. The Throgs Neck and the upper level of the GW bridges sounds like the only ways off the island for a class A. Is that true?

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un 1075 ?
UN1075 is permitted for domestic shipments in the US only, as long as all markings are consistent. International shipments must use UN1978.
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I-10 thru Phoenix, AZ. Park deck tunnel.

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I live in Phoenix and have driven through there hundreds of times. No signs nothing. Where are you getting this?
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In the Province de Quťbec, Canada,

LPG is restricted at 2 bottles of max 46 Li (!2-13lusg or 13 pounds) each in

Louis-Hippolyte-La Fontaine Tunnel on Aut 25, near Montrťal, QC;
Ville-Marie Tunnel on Aut 720 in Montrťal QC;
Viger Tunnel on Aut 720 in Montreal, QC;
Melocheville Tunnel on Rte 132 in Beauharnois, QC



As for the Baltimore MD Tunnel, here is what I was referred to:

https://mdta.maryland.gov/propane.html

So I drive the beltways as many other RVers.
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Interesting info...
We're fairly new to RVing, and haven't encountered any of these restrictions yet.
As I read some of the references, they mention "bottled" LPG. That might imply that motorhomes with permanent tanks are treated differently. Ours has a tank with 55 gallons of usable capacity, which is around 220 lbs.
I would interpret that to mean that when "LPG" or "Propane" is prohibited , that means me, when "bottled xxxx" is limited, it does not mean me.
BTW... I checked and Propane is LPG, but LPG can be propane or several other types of Liquified Petroleum Gas.
Good discussion and thanks for the info.

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