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Old 10-26-2018, 02:04 PM   #1
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Unhappy Send to Garmin GPS

I have spent over 24 hours tying to send a simple route with 3 waypoints to my Garmin 660 without luck. The RV trip wizard is an excellent tool for planning a trip but when it get to integration with a Garmin GPS it is very bad to say the less. I have followed all of the intructions from the Trip Wizard help. My first test was with 3 wayponis, create the trip send to GPS, import the files into Garmin Basecamp change route to track send the file to my GPS. Result is the same name for the start and end of each trip leg (3 waypoints 2 legs) and no turn to turn voice once loaded into the GPS.

I tought that the 3 waypoints were creating a problem I then did a second test that was even simpler, a start and a finish with no other waypoints. I got the same result once imported to Garmin Basecamp, start point and end point with the same name and no turn to turn voice once selected. Once exported there is a map with turns and so on, but when we look at the route turns informations between the start and end there is nothing. It look like a single drive with no turns

There must be a way to export a route to a Garmin GPS. (both test were done multiple times with the same result).
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:55 PM   #2
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Welcome to the group. Lots of good info here. I use Basecamp only so won't be of much help on importing from Trip Wizard. Sorry!!


I do load POIs from DiscoveryOwners.com into BC and upload to my Garmin if you have any interest.
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:09 PM   #3
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My first test was with 3 wayponis, create the trip send to GPS, import the files into Garmin Basecamp change route to track send the file to my GPS. Result is the same name for the start and end of each trip leg (3 waypoints 2 legs) and no turn to turn voice once loaded into the GPS.

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I'm going to try and help.

First, you mentioned above you changed the route to a track after loading the trip from Trip Wizard to Base Camp. That's backwards. When you download a trip from Trip Wizard to Base Camp each leg of that trip downloads as a track. You must change each leg to a route before Base Camp can transfer it to your GPS.

Concerning how RVTW and Base Camp handles multiple legs within a trip & how they are named: Trips in Trip Wizard can consist of several legs. If you transfer a trip consisting of more than one leg the trip transfers with the file name of the trip as you named it in Trip Wizard. Each leg of the trip in Trip Wizard is embedded in the file and will import into Base Camp as separate files one for each leg and the name of each leg will be its beginning and end point. Legs download into Base Camp as Tracks and must be converted to routes before they can be transferred to your GPS.

The legs you created in RVTW including any modifications using the drag feature in RVTW will be the same routes shown in Base Camp after you download to Base Camp. Beware though that after you transfer the route from Base Camp to your GPS, your GPS creates it's own route using the parameters you set in the GPS using only the beginning and end points of each leg you created in RVTW and transferred to Base Camp and then to your GPS.

This can be very confusing especially if you use the drag feature of RVTW. The route you created in RVTW using the drag feature mostly likely will not be the same route your GPS will follow even though the route in Base Camp will display the same as the one you created in RVTW.

Again the reason for this is your GPS simply takes the beginning and end points of each leg and creates it's own route between the two ignoring any modification you made in RVTW.

If you're still with me there is a work around to getting the GPS to follow the trip you made in RVTW. A detailed PDF word document on how create a trip in RVTW and download it to your GPS and have the GPS follow is in the accompanying attachment.

I've found that Google Maps is a good back up to the GPS and Google Maps allows you to add layers, like fueling stops, campgrounds and rest areas making it a valuable addition to your navigation devices. RVTW routes can be downloaded to Google Maps, the attachment shows how and much more.
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Old 10-27-2018, 07:29 PM   #4
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Thanks

I have downloaded your PDF document and will test three process in the following weeks.

Thanks again
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:38 AM   #5
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I find that many people do not understand the difference between routes and tracks and when to use each for a particular purpose. If you want turn by turn directions then you want a route. Unless you do not want to have it recalculate on you. In that case you want a track. I have seen instances where a missed turn will cause a recalculation that can take a person miles out of their way. If they had been following a track and missed the turn, they could have easily taken side roads to rejoin the original track and saved time and effort. You can load them both to your GPS and follow which ever one you choose. Even switch back and forth between them.



Most folks also do not understand base maps and routing options. If you are using a routable map in a mapping program and export the route to another mapping program (or to your GPS) that is using a different base map, the route may not be the same. You might have City Navigator 2014 in one device and City Navigator 2018 in another. Just because they are the same program does not mean that they will route similarly due to them having different data sets. Once you add in Open Street Maps or another brand of routable maps, then the complexity is exponential.
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I'm the same as ByeTheWay. I have 2 different Garmin GPS units, one for the Toad and an RV one for the motorhome. I use BaseCamp exclusively. It's made by Garmin and is a free download.

Using a web-based program would make me nervous. There are lots of campgrounds with poor WiFi and I don't have an unlimited data plan so a downloadable app works for me!
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Old 01-25-2019, 05:15 AM   #7
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Lloyd,
Trip Wizard is not a replacement for Garmin's Basecamp. Kudos to you for learning to use Basecamp, many won't take the time to do so.
Trip Wizard is a planning tool that integrates campground reviews, filtering of campgrounds, predicted fueling locations, route adjustment, budgeting, and much more.

I use both BaseCamp and Trip Wizard and find the tools with TW more robust and much easier to use.
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