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Old 03-31-2018, 07:07 PM   #1
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Arctic Fox 27-5L Real World Weights

If someone has the real weight scale weights an an empty Arctic Fox 26-5L and would impart them, it would be appreciated.

Wife and I have been out of the RV family for about 10 years.

Like many here, we started with a pop-up, travel trailer, 5th wheel and then 40 foot pusher. Now, we are going back to a fifth wheel.

Towing with a 2016 F-350 6.7L diesel.

Might go to a 28-5C if I have the weight room.

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Old 03-31-2018, 07:59 PM   #2
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Dry weights don't much matter...not going to tow it dry (empty)

The 27-5L has a GWVR of 13,400 well within the range of your F350

The 28-5C has a GVWR of 16,000 which COULD be within the range of your F350

It depends on how much more weight rear axle has to carry before being overloaded (and tire ratings)

Using trailers GVWR and 20% pin weight ratio......do you have enough 'axle capacity' after truck is FULLY loaded up 'camp ready'

Note: 20% is on low end
I have a 22% + wet pin on a true scaled weight of 13,873# (3090#) which puts be right at RAWR (which is lower then what your 2016 F350 has)

SO IF your F350 is single axle truck then you should be good up to that 16K GVWR trailer
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Old 03-31-2018, 09:19 PM   #3
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Quite right Old-Biscuit!

I should have asked for loaded weights. How soon we forget the basics. Like I said, we have been out of it for 10 years or so, and I used to have it nailed down with my previous units.

Since most people are going to carry additional weight, it still would be helpful to see what their "loaded" weights would be, just to give me an idea.
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Everyone's loaded weight will be different. Some people travel light with no fluids and some will fill every nick and cranny they can see. Knowing true UVW is useful if you know what you are going to carry. Published UVW by manufacturers on web sites is useless unless you buy a no optioned trailer. We carry our standard gear always, kitchen, bath, linens, and leveling boards, etc., and add specifics (food, clothes) for a trip. Your mileage will vary as they say.
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Old 04-01-2018, 03:57 PM   #5
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Wife and I have been out of the RV family for about 10 years.
Carefully consider using an NRVIA inspection for your PDI.

NW quality has suffered greatly over the least several years.
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Old 04-06-2018, 08:24 AM   #6
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I have to respectfully disagree with Gray01, AF still gives great quality for the price. That said, I've scaled mine several times and have around 1000# left on the axles but my rear TV axle is right at capacity. I usually run with full water But the 27-5 tank is over the axles. Pin weight is up a bit with the holding tanks full, but I can usually dump within 50 miles. You should have no real world problems with a diesel one ton with either the 27-5 or the 29-5. I'm not sure about a 26-5 or 28-5, I'm not aware of either of those models. I'd go with a DRW if you go any bigger as the pin weights get excessive.
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Carefully consider using an NRVIA inspection for your PDI.

NW quality has suffered greatly over the least several years.
So they're junk just like everyone else?
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So they're junk just like everyone else?
AF uses the same components that most other RV mfrs use. The manufacturing defects and poor assembly is very disappointing. Apart from the frame which is purportedly stronger than Lippert frames, and the aluminum superstructure, I do not think that there is a substantial difference.

AF could change all of that in very quick fashion by implementing assembly process control and strong final quality control inspection. They probably will not for 2 reasons:1. because many buyers are apologists for poor quality, and actually will say things such as increased efficiency would cost more, which from an engineering standpoint is silly, and 2. because people like me keep buying them.

If I had know about the NRVIA inspection process before we bought ours I would have definitely used it.
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