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Old 09-12-2018, 09:53 AM   #15
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In terms of weigh, all manufactures use different standards vs putting the rig on a scale. Most RV'ers tend to ignore this as well as the speed ratings on their tires.

I loaded mine up and went and had it weighed..including the pin weight. I wanted to set the air pressures on my TV and having the actual weight on all axles is the key.

There is a lot of "group think" on the Northwood Owners Assoc. web site.

Sorry to hear of your build quality. Even the RV company that occasionally works on ours cannot get over the quality of our rig.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:31 AM   #16
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It's easy to see the weights before you buy. All RV's have a weight sticker. A simple phone call to the dealer would solve that. Or if you're on the lot you can see it yourself.
I only use the brochure advertised weights to get in the ball park. The final decision needs to be based on the actual weight sticker.
FWIW the DW and I were at a local RV show at the end of last year. There were several AF 5th wheels there. All had higher weights or lower CCC as a result than what the brochures say. Pin weights were 4-500 lbs heavier. And no gens were installed.
NW does need to update it's site. They still have my 2013 weights listed for the Fox Mountain for their 2018 units. Upon looking at the weight sticker at that RV show it seems that the 2018 FM's were much heavier or they changed something that caused the CCC to be about 1500 lbs less. 4300lbs down to 2800lbs.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:29 AM   #17
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Some companies weight before certain stuff is installed but that is irrelevant.


The actual weight of your trailer is after you pile all your stuff into it..and if you not uing that weight to decide on your tv or tire pressures...then you are fooling yourself especially if you are running into very tight tolerances with your TV.


Folks also forget .. then is is important when you are on the line wit the towing capacity of your tv.. that when you slam the brakes on, there is a lot of extra weight transferred to the tv from the trailer..


I don't trust brochures nor stickers. I do trust a properly set up weight scale.
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Some companies weight before certain stuff is installed but that is irrelevant.


The actual weight of your trailer is after you pile all your stuff into it..and if you not uing that weight to decide on your tv or tire pressures...then you are fooling yourself especially if you are running into very tight tolerances with your TV.


Folks also forget .. then is is important when you are on the line wit the towing capacity of your tv.. that when you slam the brakes on, there is a lot of extra weight transferred to the tv from the trailer..


I don't trust brochures nor stickers. I do trust a properly set up weight scale.
Northwood MFG weighs their trailers after everything's added. The final sticker you see is the true weight as it leaves the factory. UVW, CCC, pin/TW

I'm 100% sure that not all MFG adhere to that pattern.
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[QUOTE=Cumminsfan;4400867]Northwood MFG weighs their trailers after everything's added. The final sticker you see is the true weight as it leaves the factory. UVW, CCC, pin/TW


The only true way you will ever know your rigs weigh and what it is at the pin is to weigh it when it is fully loaded. I do0n't run with full tanks but that is also a variable. Anything else is guessing and putting a lot of trust into the company..but I do agree with you comment when the rig is pulled out of northwood's shop.
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:34 AM   #20
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This discussion began as a question from the OP regarding the 27-5L vs. the 29-5T. It has wanndered and morphed, as so many do, into other areas. Just thought I would point this out and maybe we could return to the OP's question.
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Have a look at the ORV 5 th wheel....I believe Arctic Fox and ORV use the same frame and suspense...as well as identical fridge,window manufacturer, oven and stove manufacture, door manufacturer. You could say they are almost identical except for the out side decals and the name.
Maybe the quality of the manufacturering are the same as well.
Lots of options out their.
Good luck with your process
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Have a look at the ORV 5 th wheel....I believe Arctic Fox and ORV use the same frame and suspense...as well as identical fridge,window manufacturer, oven and stove manufacture, door manufacturer. You could say they are almost identical except for the out side decals and the name.
Maybe the quality of the manufacturering are the same as well.
Lots of options out their.
Good luck with your process

Northwood owns OVR.
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I also am the proud owner of a 2018 29-5T. I looked at both and I am really going through the size reduction shock coming down from a Teton 39' Grand Sundance 3 axle. We also looked at the 27-L but decided that we did not like the bedroom/bathroom configuration or the rear kitchen. Yes it is a bit longer but the size is well distributed. We took the couch and recliners out and stuck with our two big recliners from our Teton. We find that while the build quality is not comparable to the Teton it was the best choice for us in the 30-34 foot range. Love the big shower, king bed and the fact that we opted for a vented washer/dryer combo. Not a bargain priced unit but the dealer (thanks Norm's RV in Poway CA) treated us very well and no I am not paid to give him a plug! We tend to take longer trips (x2 Alaska veterans plus multiple 6 week trips in the lower 48) and feel that the weatherization of the Arctic Fox plus adequate storage will work well for us. Good luck with your purchase.
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4 months in AF 29 5-T

We have been full timing in our AF 29 5-T since June. We have been very happy with it so far. We are learning as we go. We have never owned an RV so have nothing else to compare it to. We wanted the 27 5L at first but we also liked the layout better on the 29 5T and my husband needed computer space. We ditched the couch and kept the chairs. One is in the back with the computer desk and one is where the couch would be. We can swivel to see the TV when we use it. I put the pillow in the small of my back for more support though. Don't really like that curve thing going on. We have had a few bits fall off, a couple screws pop out and the extension on the table is messed up but we don't use it anyway. The storage in the chairs and table hold my art supplies 😁. We're getting the kinks out and living the rv life. Love having very little stuff and moving around the west so far. Also learned the big lesson of looking up. Had to have the roof replaced! Thank goodness for insurance!
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