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Old 02-06-2019, 10:18 AM   #15
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I have mixed feeling about the next model year Ram. The upgraded transmissions and programming are welcome, but the use of a different fuel pump comes into question. GM dropped this pump manufacturer due to failures and sourced another brand while Ford increased fuel filtration and went through multiple revisions of this pump to keep it from failing. I think Ford worked out the bugs for Ram, but I'm not sure they are both on the same page regarding remediation of issues that can cause the pump to fail.
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:55 PM   #16
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I have mixed feeling about the next model year Ram. The upgraded transmissions and programming are welcome, but the use of a different fuel pump comes into question. GM dropped this pump manufacturer due to failures and sourced another brand while Ford increased fuel filtration and went through multiple revisions of this pump to keep it from failing.
I think Ford worked out the bugs for Ram, but I'm not sure they are both on the same page regarding remediation of issues that can cause the pump to fail.
Ford's new 7.3 liter gasser is going in a direction I've seen discussed a while back...
Whether it's spurred by Ford staying ahead of the EPA's misdirected war on diesel power, or Ford's inability to de-bug the Scorpion, here is the new 'big-block' old-school/new technology gasoline burner for their medium trucks...

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Old 04-02-2019, 02:05 AM   #17
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I think the SRW vs DRW discussion is a function of safety and need. If you are driving short distance, if your truck is your main vehicle, and your rig is, relatively, light - SRW may be ok. If your rig is heavy, if you take long trips, if you own the truck to carry your rig - you want DRW.

I read a lot of posts where we rationalize being overweight by citing axle ratings and saying the GVWR's are set by the manufacturer's attorneys. If you don't care about safety - do what you want. But we should all understand that not being safe can be very expensive.
Also, if there is a accident you can get a overweight ticket if the officer is really looking for something.
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Old 04-03-2019, 11:02 PM   #18
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HaHaHa! My 2020 F550 will have 12,000 lb payload! I could carry a F350!
The more, the merrier!
Gonna have those wimpy duallies replaced with singles but the singles will
be 41 inchers with 6750 lb capacity. It will be basically the same chassis you
see on an Earthroamer but I’m putting a Host Mammoth on it - more space
for way less money.
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You could carry a F-350 plus a F-150 but that would be pushing it.
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Old 04-13-2019, 06:33 AM   #20
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HaHaHa! My 2020 F550 will have 12,000 lb payload! I could carry a F350!
The more, the merrier!
Gonna have those wimpy duallies replaced with singles but the singles will
be 41 inchers with 6750 lb capacity. It will be basically the same chassis you
see on an Earthroamer but I’m putting a Host Mammoth on it - more space
for way less money.
You might get that payload from a stripped down gasser with single cab and no upfit on the frame rails. Once you start adding to that, you will be closer to an 8000-9000 LB payload. My configured Ram 5500 weighs almost 11,000 lbs when empty.
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12,510 payload for the F550 chassis cab w/ extended cab. Custom SherpTek flatbed only weighs 750 lbs leaving me 11,750 payload. The Host Mammoth dry is 4000 so I figure another 3000 lbs of beer, food, and guns gives me 4750 lbs of leeway. ;-)
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My Mammoth dry is over 4700 lbs. When filled and loaded, over 6000 lbs.
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OK, I’m down to 4000 lbs of safety cushion!
Might have to cut back on the food to preserve the beer cargo!
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Old 05-02-2019, 03:59 AM   #24
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The new 2020MY GM 2500/3500 trucks should be available in a few months with more added cargo capacity. I am thinking the increase will be significant.

Then the Ram then the Ford improved trucks by the end of the year.
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Old 05-02-2019, 09:27 AM   #25
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New trucks >>> bigger numbers...
But then again a typical OEM tire for a SRW truck is load rated at 3640 pounds which sets the maximum axle GAWR at 7000 pounds.

No matter what the vehicle manufacture does or says about their product that vehicle can never be built (or rated) to handle more than 7000 Lb. per axle.
And likewise dually's have their tire based GAWR limits too.

Look at any HD truck advertisements and they glowingly boast about their towing capability... but notice how they dont boast about the "haul" capability's.
For a truck camper application it seems to be more about specialized Tires & Rims than the truck itself.

Plus no manufacturer of Class-3 vehicles wants to push their product into Class-4 territory.
(I.e. F350 long-bed dually GVWR versus F450 GVWR)

I'm no expert on this stuff so help me out if I got this wrong.
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No sure if there is any limit to tires and axles other than the current limits. The 2017 and newer F-450 comes with 19.5" commerical tires. It would be doable to build an axle to match those tires. Just build it thicker and stronger. What are the limits on the 19.5" tires? I do not know.

Edit: I just googled 19.5" tires and they can carry around 4,200lbs.

For tires add more belts and improve the weight carrying capacity. But right now they seem content with the current limit on tires...for now. But I can say with 90% 'for sure' trucks 10 years from now will be stronger than the 2020 trucks.

High strength steel in the frame really strengthens the whole truck.
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:23 AM   #27
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...High strength steel in the frame really strengthens the whole truck.
Agreed!
Stronger is always better.

But until then, I have $70k truck that can tow a mountain but only haul 3700 pounds.

Perhaps future Class-3 SRW vehicles will indeed get that number up a bit.
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Yep, your truck can tow the space shuttle but can not carry 4,000lbs.

The weight carrying capacity of trucks is inching up while towing capability is moving up much faster.
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