New trucks with added cargo capacity - wow

[tuffr2]

The 2019 Ram has been introduced and wow is it capable. The 2019 2WD Ram Dually has a cargo capacity of over 7,000lbs. A 1,000 ft. lb. Optional H.O. diesel engine. I really like the factory air bag option on these trucks.

The 2019 or 2020 Chevy will be introduced next month. Chevy states 'significant increase' in cargo capacity and towing. A new more powerful 6.6 gasoline engine. Also a 10 speed auto transmission. The gasoline engines are lighter than a diesel engine. A gasoline powered 2WD should have the best cargo capacity.

Not to be outdone - Ford will also introduce a redesigned Super Duty trucks later in 2019. I expect it to keep up with or slightly surpass Ram as Ford likes to advertise 'Best in Class'. Rumor has it they are also working on a larger, more powerful gasoline engine and a 10 speed transmission.

The 10 Speed transmission was co-developed with Chevy and Ford.

Good, expensive days ahead.

[Ray,IN]

Amazing right! My old Chevy Duramax dually, 4X4,CC, LB, had a CCC of just over 3,000# when loaded up ready to tow our 5er; some 1/2T pickups have that much today.

[Bedlam]

The maximum ratings you see will be for a basic 2wd truck with standard cab. Everything else will have a higher gross vehicle weight that will go against the GVWR. The GVWR is limited by the class in which the truck is sold. If you load 1000 lbs more on the front axle the rear axle will still have the same reserve but you will see 1000 lbs less payload on paper.

[tuffr2]

I am really surprised by how much a well built, well insulated truck camper weighs. With one slide I am thinking an Artic Fox will be around 4,000lbs empty.

The specs are already out on the 2019 Ram but not on the redesigned Chevy nor the redesigned Ford.

I would prefer to have a SRW truck with a truck camper vs a DRW.

[FatDog]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

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I would prefer to have a SRW truck with a truck camper vs a DRW.

I prefer the SRW also.

But as I look more at a potential TC, I wonder about the truck's cab too. I prefer the standard cab pickup, at the very most maybe an extended cab. I want to save weight and I don't use the extra room much anyway. Can you get by with a shorter cab or does a TC's overhang need a crew cab ?
I would prefer a SRW, 4X4, standard cab, long bed.

[laj]

thats what i haul mine on. dont want need all that extra room. save a bunch of money buying reg. cab. too

[BIGDREAMS]

I really dont think that is anything crazy new or huge.

I have a 2018 GMC 3500 dually 4WD double cab (small 4 door) ... gas engine...

My payload is just a hair under 6,000lbs (5,955lbs)

The same truck- 2WD and regular cab has a payload of 7,153 lbs....


What am I missing???

[Electrojake]

Originally Posted by BIGDREAMS

I have a 2018 GMC 3500 dually 4WD double cab (small 4 door) ... gas engine...
My payload is just a hair under 6,000lbs (5,955lbs)

The same truck- 2WD and regular cab has a payload of 7,153 lbs....

What am I missing???

Hah! Dont feel bad...
My $70k RAM 3500 has a payload of 3705 lbs.
Two bags of ice and a case of beer and I'm over GVWR.

[jboerger3]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

I am really surprised by how much a well built, well insulated truck camper weighs. With one slide I am thinking an Artic Fox will be around 4,000lbs empty.

The specs are already out on the 2019 Ram but not on the redesigned Chevy nor the redesigned Ford.

I would prefer to have a SRW truck with a truck camper vs a DRW.

I think the SRW vs DRW discussion is a function of safety and need. If you are driving short distance, if your truck is your main vehicle, and your rig is, relatively, light - SRW may be ok. If your rig is heavy, if you take long trips, if you own the truck to carry your rig - you want DRW.

I read a lot of posts where we rationalize being overweight by citing axle ratings and saying the GVWR's are set by the manufacturer's attorneys. If you don't care about safety - do what you want. But we should all understand that not being safe can be very expensive.

[Electrojake]

Originally Posted by BIGDREAMS

I have a 2018 GMC 3500 dually 4WD double cab (small 4 door) ... gas engine...
My payload is just a hair under 6,000lbs (5,955lbs)

The same truck- 2WD and regular cab has a payload of 7,153 lbs....

What am I missing???

If your vehicle has a 12000 Lb GVWR and the truck itself only weighs 7000 Lb then you will still have 5000 Lb available for payload.

Conversely, take the same 12,000 Lb rated truck and load it with accessories, 4WD, a bigger engine, and the truck itself could weigh 8500 Lb. leaving only 3500 Lb for payload.

Basically fancy trucks cant carry as much as low-end trucks.

[BIGDREAMS]

Originally Posted by Electrojake

If your vehicle has a 12000 Lb GVWR and the truck itself only weighs 7000 Lb then you will still have 5000 Lb available for payload.

Conversely, take the same 12,000 Lb rated truck and load it with accessories, 4WD, a bigger engine, and the truck itself could weigh 8500 Lb. leaving only 3500 Lb for payload.

Basically fancy trucks cant carry as much as low-end trucks.

Oh my truck is loaded right up. I have just about every damn option but a sunroof...and lane departure warning.... and a diesel engine ....

for crying out loud...it has wireless charging for cell phones....my god... next truck will come with an blow up copilot to take over

[Electrojake]

Originally Posted by BIGDREAMS

Oh my truck is loaded right up. I have just about every damn option but a sunroof...and lane departure warning.... and a diesel engine ....

for crying out loud...it has wireless charging for cell phones....my god... next truck will come with an blow up copilot to take over

BIGDREAMS, I like your style!
I have a small 2016 RAM Longhorn that I factory ordered with everything but the kitchen sink... but I ordered out the sunroof since I knew it would be for camper duty.
My truck equates to $70,000 worth of useless payload sucking gadgets, but I love it.

My little Northstar camper is pretty much the same: Loaded with bling to the point of weighing in at an obnoxious 3800 pounds!

Your 2018 GMC 3500 dually 4WD double cab is a big-rig compared to my little RAM.
It sounds like you have a sweet truck right there.

[RichardSpahn]

When will the 2019 Ram 3500s be available at dealers? Today I ordered an option loaded NorthStar 850SC for a TBD Ram. Dropped by Ram dealer on way home and they were evasive on availability date of 2019s and tried to sell me a 2018. I think I want an optioned out quad cab 4x4 6'4" bed and need to value engineer all the configurations to see what I REALLY NEED :-)

[Electrojake]

Originally Posted by RichardSpahn

When will the 2019 Ram 3500s be available at dealers? Today I ordered an option loaded NorthStar 850SC for a TBD Ram. Dropped by Ram dealer on way home and they were evasive on availability date of 2019s and tried to sell me a 2018. I think I want an optioned out quad cab 4x4 6'4" bed and need to value engineer all the configurations to see what I REALLY NEED :-)

IMHO it’s worth the 8 week wait to do a ‘factory order’ and get exactly what you want.
My ordered 16 Longhorn 3500 4x4 Cummins/AISIN Short-bed is sweet! Exactly what I want and nothing I didn’t want.

The 2019 is a remodeled truck. Lots of new & better options than the 2018.
Just saying, if you like technology wait for the 2019.

Keep us posted!
-Ej-