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Old 11-12-2019, 07:05 AM   #15
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Agree, that little half ton trucks are out. You need at least a F-250 but the same size truck would be a F-350 SRW that can carry 1,500lbs more and would be better.

2011 or newer are good trucks, especially the 6.2 litre gas engine.
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Without knowing how you will use the camper I will tell you my story.

We moved from WV to OR in the early '70's and have gone back and forth every year except two since the later '70's to visit friends and family, and to see places we were interested in. For nearly 40 years that trip was made with a 11.5' camper and 3/4 ton 4wd standard cab diesel truck (two different combos). In the early years the whole family of five traveled in the TC, and looking back it was a lot of fun with many good memories. I also used the camper for hunting and fishing trips while towing a boat or small 4wd vehicle and/or 2 Honda CT 90's. I/we sometimes stayed for up to a month while hunting and longer on trips.

After having the first camper for about 15 years without a gen or AC and traveling through the south on some trips, that became a priority for our next camper. I would not have another without both.

After having MH's for the last 6 years, I'm currently looking for another 11.5 camper and 4wd, standard cab, 3/4 ton, diesel truck.

We started with a gasoline powered truck and had it for a year or two at 9-10 mpg, then switched to diesel which got 15-16 with just the camper and 1-2 mpg less when towing. When empty mileage was around 20-23 mpg. I run about 70 on interstates.

All I can say is that that combination worked well for us, and if you plan to do about the same with yours it would probably work for you.

Best of luck with your choice.

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With the power output and emission controls on new diesels, I doubt you will replicate the mileage of the old ones.
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thats why that junk just keeps falling off mine.
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Old 11-13-2019, 12:19 PM   #19
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thats why that junk just keeps falling off mine.
I had to chuckle at that.

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Truck camper + pickup truck purchase

the last bunch of junk only made it 15 min. and 11 miles. they need to put some baling wire with that duct tape
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Defeating emissions can be costly: https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/clea...se-resolutions
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With the power output and emission controls on new diesels, I doubt you will replicate the mileage of the old ones.
Not sure why you think that with only a truck camper. I'm pulling 16,800 41' 5er with a 2019 F350 dually diesel and get 10 through the Smokie Mountains and 11.5 -12 on the mostly flat from NC to FL.
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OP ~~ a little suggestion from someone who did almost the same thing and heard this from an experienced truck camper owner. It saved me a bunch of money and I was buying new to use hunting and fishing.
Get familiar with the door yellow sticker of every truck you consider. The CCC number will go away 1st and especially with a truck camper effect steering and handling.
Granted back then payloads were lower but you are looking for a heavy camper with a bath, AC and etc. Mine was rather bare and weighed over 3000# empty. That was 1 ton range then and now after adding supplies, batteries, and people. I'd buy the camper 1st then a truck to carry the load. I see many truck campers today carried buy a dually, needed I don't know but certainly in 1 ton territory.
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Not sure why you think that with only a truck camper. I'm pulling 16,800 41' 5er with a 2019 F350 dually diesel and get 10 through the Smokie Mountains and 11.5 -12 on the mostly flat from NC to FL.
The front profile affects your mileage more than weight. Expect about the same mileage you are quoting with that 5er if you carry a tall TC that has a basement. You will be hard pressed getting it up to the teens.


I have a Host Mammoth on a Ram 5500 that tows a 20' enclosed trailer. My worst mileage has been 7 mpg at 65 mph fighting head wind while traveling west up the Rockies. My best was on the same trip traveling east on the same route netting me 14 mpg. The GCW of my combination was about 25k lbs and overall height is 13.5'.
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Even though frontal area does play a significant part in mileage, I think weight has a significant role also. I'm basing this on the year I hauled the 24' 10' high inside, enclosed car trailer from the east coast to OR behind the '89 Dodge Cummins 5 speed 4wd truck that was also carrying the 11.5' Caribou we normally hauled on it. Our mileage for that trip was at 9-10 compared with 13-14 with the TC towing a Tracker.

When I was building the '69 F250 6-354 Perkins rig we used to haul our 11.5' Security camper for 100k+ miles, I did a ton of calculations by hand to determine if the drive train combination I was considering would be suitable. Some of those calculations were frontal area, rolling resistance, and a lot of others I don't remember. That was in 1980. I would think the information/formulas needed to to calculate any of the same things would still be available If someone wanted to do that.

Proper final drive gearing/rpm at cruising speed is also important to best mpg. That can also be calculated.

I will say that doing all the calculations for the Perkins transplant paid off, but it was not the most powerful engine in the world. It did however get about the same mpg as the Dodge Cummins, and diesel was around $0.70-$0.80 per gal then while gas was about $1.00. It was a win-win then, not so much anymore.

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I get 1-2 mpg less while towing my 8000 lb enclosed trailer behind the camper than just carrying the 6000 lb camper. I don't have any meaningful mileage records just pulling the trailer without the camper.



In the 80's, I had the Perkins powered Mazda pickup. The normally aspirated 2.2 liter was not fast but would get high 30's with a canopy and high 20's pulling a 3000 lb Scamp fiberglass trailer. 45 mph was typical on mountain passes for top speed when towing.
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