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Old 04-02-2005, 02:28 PM   #1
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Thanks for the comments. Bumpy was right; the '05 F 350 with DRW and "properly equipped" has a payload of 5700#! GCWR is 26,000# Since learning about C of G, it is obvious a shorter & lighter camper than 11'6" is in order. For example: the Artic Fox website shows a 990 with a dinette slide @ 3281# dry. It has a 9'10" floor length. What it doesn't tell this newbie is whether it is for a 6' or 8' bed.
I'm leaning toward the '05 LWB Dodge/Cummins. In 'building'one online, it discloses the towing capacity of a 3500 DRW is 15,000+#. No mention of truck payload; does anyone out there know this stat? Also, it appears that ONLY a H.D.6 speed tranny is available with the Cummins?!. This truck will be used primarily for hiway hauling, but I'm concerned about clutch engagement pressure. Thanks again for your help! Jon C.
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Old 04-02-2005, 02:28 PM   #2
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Thanks for the comments. Bumpy was right; the '05 F 350 with DRW and "properly equipped" has a payload of 5700#! GCWR is 26,000# Since learning about C of G, it is obvious a shorter & lighter camper than 11'6" is in order. For example: the Artic Fox website shows a 990 with a dinette slide @ 3281# dry. It has a 9'10" floor length. What it doesn't tell this newbie is whether it is for a 6' or 8' bed.
I'm leaning toward the '05 LWB Dodge/Cummins. In 'building'one online, it discloses the towing capacity of a 3500 DRW is 15,000+#. No mention of truck payload; does anyone out there know this stat? Also, it appears that ONLY a H.D.6 speed tranny is available with the Cummins?!. This truck will be used primarily for hiway hauling, but I'm concerned about clutch engagement pressure. Thanks again for your help! Jon C.
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:51 PM   #3
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A990 = 8 Foot bed. Also = dually
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Old 04-07-2005, 07:11 AM   #4
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Jon, Payload ratings are mostly a sales tool because they guess on your trucks actual weight as ordered. The new Dodges have a GVWR of 12,400. Actual payload (GVWR - actual truck weight) will depend on what you order. A plain jane regular cab 2wd automatic ('cause the autos lighter), dually will have the most available payload simply due to its lighter weight. I believe the Ford has 500lbs higher GCWR, if I remember correctly.
The "Tow rating" is the same as the "payload rating" a made up number based on a guestimate of truck empty weight. Real tow rating is GCWR minus truck weight.
With a slide in camper, you'll find that the GVWR is more important than the GCWR. You'll also find that Ford has a slight GVWR advantage and a larger GCWR advantage on the current models. I remain happy with my Dodge (especially the Cummins), but if you're going to be buying a heavy slide, you need to keep a close watch on the GCWR.
As an example, my truck weighs 8338 lbs with me (200lbs) a full tank of diesel and my usual stuff (running boards, camper tie-downs, bed liners, tools, CD's etc. etc. My truck is an '03 with a 12,000 lb GVWR, so my real payload is 3,662 lbs. My camper dry sticker weight is 2350 lbs, loaded with 50galls of water and all our stuff it is 3217 lbs.

Oh, and the Dodge is only available with one manual transmission behind the Cummins, the G56 6spd. It looks like there is a HD and non-HD choice, but the non-HD 6spd is not available for use with the diesel. I have yet to drive a G-56 truck (there new for '05), but my NV-5600 has very light clutch pressure requirements.
I would be remiss if I didn't let you know that currently the G-56's that have been ordered are on hold pending resolution of some issue (input shaft seal leak, perhaps?). G-56's on the lot are still available, but if it were me, I'd be looking for a new NV-5600 (older stock) truck if I could find one.



Cheers and happy shopping,
Dave
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Old 04-07-2005, 01:09 PM   #5
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I'm not knocking any oif what has been said here. It's all true up as far as Fords go up untill 2005 model year. Look at the new weight ratings. You will be surprised. Bottom line they went to bigger wheels and tires that have higher ratings. I don't have the numbers in front of me but the increase is significant.
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