06-08-2003, 03:28 PM
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We are being hounded by BMI for their license fee that they say we are required to pay. They want $325.00 for us to have a DJ twice a year and another $200.00 for us to have a band. Campers do not come to our campground because of this entertainment, they come to camp and the entertainment is just a plus. Is anyone else frustrated with this fee? We asked BMI to send us proof that we are required to pay this fee, but have not recieved anything yet?
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06-08-2003, 03:28 PM
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We are being hounded by BMI for their license fee that they say we are required to pay. They want $325.00 for us to have a DJ twice a year and another $200.00 for us to have a band. Campers do not come to our campground because of this entertainment, they come to camp and the entertainment is just a plus. Is anyone else frustrated with this fee? We asked BMI to send us proof that we are required to pay this fee, but have not recieved anything yet?
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06-08-2003, 05:24 PM
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First of all, I see it's your first post. Welcome to iRV2.
Man, I didn't realize that folks had to pay that kind of money for the priviledge of paying a band. I did an Internet search and found this BMI contract for campgrounds: http://www.bmi.com/licensing/forms/rvparksmult.pdf
I would sure suggest getting a legal opinion before shelling that out each year.
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06-09-2003, 02:27 AM
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I had a friend that owned a neighborhood bar with a jukebox, and an occasional band from the local area, and he paid it.
Didn't like it, but said it was just a part of doing business.
The BMI reasons are, if you use the music written by artists, you must pay them for the use of this music.
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06-09-2003, 06:56 PM
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Went round and round with those idiots here. Our DJ has his own BMI licence as he owns the local radio station. The bands we get in also have there own licence. They tried to nail us because we played music in the store and resrooms and i told them to pound sand and read there sdtupid rule book as we were following there guidlines begrudgingly i might add. No more than 4 speaker in the building. Just another form of legalized extorsion whice we are forced to deal with in this business. And the SOB's register just like a normal camper and then check you out!!!! That is the worst part. I HATE sneaky people!!!!
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06-16-2003, 11:53 AM
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The alternative is to stop advertising and using music in your brochure, website, events lists, etc.
Then, they'll leave you alone.
I agree it's a rip off. And it doesn't matter if the DJ or band have their own lisence, you as the business owner, are required by law to have one.
Instead of a DJ, if you have a CD player, and the teens play their own CDs, you don't need a lisence. But, if you HIRE a DJ, you have to have one. Law says so.
And, if you have a talent show where people play for free, then you don't need one, but if you hire a band, you need one.
So, get creative!
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06-18-2003, 05:24 PM
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According to BMI as long as the artist/DJ has there own licence we do not have to have one. They did harrass a camper of ours that was playing and singing a Hank JR song at the campfire one night and told us to tell her to stop or we would be fined. I never asked her to play!!!!!! Didn't matter to these jerks!
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12-07-2004, 05:07 PM
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Good day all,
My wife & I have been teaching dancing & dj'ng over 11 years now & have always had a BMI/ASCAP license. I've never been asked for it, but pay every year. Just another business expense. Most folks could probrably get away without having one, but if you do a search on the net I don't think you will find an instance where the music industry has lost a case they brought against someone.
Artist turn over the collection of royalties to companies to handle. ASCAP & BMI are two, but there are several others. I think the bottom line is if you are making money by playing music, you had better have a license.
I get mine from the American Callers Association (americancallers.com) Their rates are very reasonable, & the peace of mind is worth it.
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