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Old 04-16-2016, 12:47 PM   #197
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I think these rules about not leaving anything outside are pretty much SOP for any park where bears are known to be around. We found the same thing in Yellowstone. One night at Teklanika the ranger showed us bear scat in the campground during his (or her?) evening talk.
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Do you know if on the day of arrival you can dump your tanks and fill your fresh at Riley Creek before you head to Tek. Campground? I believe we were told to check in at the Wilderness Access Center

We're camping right now (NE Ohio). Spent today looking over my Milepost & Mike and Terri Church Alaskan Camping books, light-lighting possible stops.
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There is a dump station at the visitor center where you will get your pass for Teklanika. We dumped there and topped off the fresh water. Didn't have to ask anyone. I believe there are 3 lanes/dump stations available.
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Old 04-27-2016, 01:58 PM   #200
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Trip report, heading home.

4/26
Whitecourt, Grand Prairie, Dawson Creek, Fort St. John
Day temp. 65 night 37
Diesel .99 per Liter
Roads in good shape
Preparing for construction just outside of Ft. St. John several miles will be involved.
Late leaving so over night Wowowon about 50 miles N.
They had a couple of full hookups, $40 but we were just looking to overnight with no services they took $20.

4/27
Ft. St. John to Ft. Nelson, on to the hot springs.
Day temp. so far 50
Diesel Ft. Nelson $1.20 per Liter
The road is in fare shape, just rough pavement, running at 60 mph.

CAMP AT YOUR OWN RISK: Disclaimer we did not check into ownership just looking for future sites for ourselves
Checked out several Boon-docking locations, mileage is from Ft. St. John,

First at about mile 150 on the right just a gravel turn off right next to the highway.
Several in the vicinity 170 to 183 mostly small areas along the highway.
Mile 183 was a larger area back in about 100 yards large area could possibly hand a couple of rigs.
Mile 190 was another possible location down by the creek.

Wild life today before 10 am, so far:
Hawks, Coyote, old Black bear, Owl

on the road again, we will be a bit before hitting Whitehorse next time I know of internet.
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Thanks for the update. Carry on.....
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:10 AM   #202
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leaveanythink out on the tables, at least when we were there the camp host was a turd, and is not polite about hauling your BBQ even still too hot to put away off to the jail room with a note or maybe not to get it out of lockup.

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You grilled on top of a table? Are they the concrete type? Wood or plastic would be damaged, no?
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Thanx for the updates. Since you have done this return home trip before, do you notice more or less RV's on the road ? I'm thinking with the price of diesel down somewhat, more people might be doing the trip north. I know diesel is cheaper up north. My Gasbuddy website is not listing many prices along the Alcan. Any feedback on regular fuel prices?
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The price of diesel may be down but the exchange rate for Canadians is down also, it is currently about 70 cents on the dollar. We saw less Snowbirds in Florida this year, we were told it was because of the exchange.
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The exchange rate has been running in the $1.24 - $1.26. Our credit card company said they charge a 1.3% exchange fee when paying for stuff in Canada. Plan to change over some US currency to some Canadian bills.
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Trip Report continues
We shortened the trip due to weather it chased us out of S Dakota and followed us all the way home.

To answer question I expect more travelers, but even with the exchange rates fuel in Canada is still expensive.

4/27
Northern Rockies Lodge diesel $1.54 per Liter skip or add just enough to reach Watson Lake, if you can go 325 miles diesel will be available at every major community.

Construction Just outside of Ft. Nelson not started yet but everything is being staged

Liard Hot Springs
Liard River Hot Springs Provincial Park - BC Parks

The Provincial park is open $16 overnight and a dip in the springs.

4/28
Liard, Watson Lake, Whitehorse
Up early, Construction begins almost immediately maybe 10 miles.
Bison, Black Bears, 2 Fox

Watson Lake
fuel diesel $0.99

Multiple possible Boondocking locations around mile 160 from Watson Lake
mostly gravel pits on Right side.

Whitehorse
fuel diesel $1.02
Walmart is still allowing overnights.
please don’t put out your slides and if you put down your jacks or levelers put some plywood or other such protection to the parking lot pavement. Several Class A’s were completely setup as if
in camping mode.

4/29
Haines Jct.
Pine Lake Provincial park is open, better option than Walmart.

Village Bakery and Deli, is open great food must stop before heading toward Beaver Creek.
Turn Right at the Raven Motel, drive to the end of the street it is on the left.

The road is in pretty good condition to Destruction Bay
At Burwash the road is where the frost heaves begin, time to slow down.
After that several pavement breaks. This is where it becomes a mess, wash board, dust or mud depending on the weather or construction. They weren’t working when we came thru.
It rained, snowed, or hailed while we crossed this 80 miles to Beaver Creek none of it stuck to the ground.
Fuel was very expensive in Beaver Creek so if you can make Tok wait to fuel up.
Tok fuel diesel $2.34

Fast Eddy’s restaurant - Prime Rib Friday’s $22 9oz. very complete menu Halibut was great.

4/30
Tok, Glennalllen, Anchorage

Tok frost heaves begin to Glennallen, after Glennallen the road is great to Gunsite lodge
then a few more frost heaves.

We are home, clean up begins tomorrow, not as bad this year.
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What city is that in?

I don't have the fuel capacity in my gas Tundra to go very far between fill ups (225 - 250) tops.

I believe diesel is cheaper than regular along the Alcan.
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What city is that in?

I don't have the fuel capacity in my gas Tundra to go very far between fill ups (225 - 250) tops.

I believe diesel is cheaper than regular along the Alcan.

It's not really close to any towns....between Ft Nelson and Watson Lake , situated on the shore of Muncho Lake. Beautiful place but everything there is expensive.
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About 35 minutes South of Liard Hot springs, 187 miles from Fort Nelson, another 130 to Watson Lake.

Layout your route in increments that are within your fuel range, keep your fuel in the top half unless you are within reach of the major communities. There is usually an open fuel stop somewhere along the route.

Didn't really check gas prices.
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Thanx...I will be carrying an extra 5 gallon gas can as a backup. I believe the Tundra has a 26 gallon tank. For a gas thirsty truck, Toyota should have gone to a 35 gallon tank.
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