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02-16-2017, 04:08 PM
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We wil just be returning home about May 24 from the SW.
Hoping the weather cooperates in April I'd like to hit Bryce for a couple of days that is the only Nat. Park left to visit in Utah. At 8000 ft. the snow will likely still fill the park. Mapping out more camping hiking in BC & Yukon.
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02-20-2017, 12:38 PM
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Location: English and travelling
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So, after much perusing of maps and routes for our trip from Los Angeles CA to Homer AK.
I have come up with the following idea for our trip up and back.
We fly into LA on April the 24th, we plan to enter Canada somewhere around the 15th to 20th May.
I am interested in peoples thoughts on this route/plan?
We will enter BC via the I5 to Vancouver and head north on the 99 past Whistler to a place called Cache Creek.
Then the Cariboo Hwy (97) north to Prince George then west on the 16 to Kitwanga and North up the Cassiar-Stewart Hwy (37) to Watson Lake.
We then will take the Robert Campbell Hwy (4) north to Ross river and Carmacks, north on the Klondike Hwy (2) to Flat Creek onto Dawson city on the 9 and the Top of the World Hwy before joining the (5) Taylor highway so
South to Tetlin Junction and Tok.
From there we will go north on the Alaskan Hwy to Fairbanks before heading South to stay at Denali NP on the George parks Hwy.
After that we will head to Anchorage and down to Homer and Seward before doing the journey in reverse with a couple of slight changes.
From Anchorage taking the 1 to Tok, south on the Alaskan Hwy (2) to Haines Junction and on to Whitehorse then onto Watson Lake back down the Alaskan Hwy (2) To Kitwanga and Prince George, south on the Cariboo Hwy again to Cache Creek then down the 12 Frazier river canyon road to Hope.
After that we are off down through Washington and Oregon before flying home to the UK in late October.
Any input/thoughts/ideas would be appreciated.
Terry & Gill
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02-20-2017, 07:54 PM
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Wadders: It sounds like the perfect trip. Are you renting a RV? We've been to all those areas except 99 to Whistler. We entered Canada from Sumas, Washington and spent a night in Hope then headed north to Cache Creek from there.
You'll have plenty of time from the end of April to October to see everything!!
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02-20-2017, 09:29 PM
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Wadders, an alternate suggestion based on many years making the trip.
Take I-15 to either US93 north just past Las Vegas and take it all the way to Canada 1 in Banff/Lake Louise, or continue on I-15 to I-90, then west just past Missoula and US93 north.
See what you want in Banff/Lake Louise, then west to 93 north Icefields Parkway to 16 in Jasper. Go eat towards Hinton, AB, and north on 40 to Grand Prairie, then west to Dawson Creek and the Alaska Highway.
Take the Cassiar (37) south on your return and consider the side trip to Hyder and Stewart, good bear viewing depending on your timing, then on to Prince George and south to Cache Creek and Hope.
Cross the border at Abbotsford to Sumas, WA or to Lynden, WA, usually much quicker than the Peace Arch crossing on I-5.
Depending on where you are going in WA and OR, consider Salt Creek County park along Hwy 112 west of Port Angeles. Right on the water, views of Vacouver Island and the marine traffic, and broadcast TV from Vancouver and Victoria.
The travel distance and time is about the same, but you will see a lot more. Enjoy the trip.
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02-21-2017, 12:54 AM
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I agree with (Terry Jay), the reverse is a better route especially at that time of year. Depending on weather it can snow in the Mt. and lakes may still be covered or partially covered with ice.
I plotted an alternative routes North. I also plotted the reverse route back down the Cassiar with a couple of camp grounds that are nice. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Going North into Canada central route, takes you East along the Columbia river.
Short hikes to Water falls, Dams, National forest up the middle of Washington state to Dawson Creek. From Dawson Creek, Ft. St. John, Ft. Nelson, Watson Lake, Whitehorse, up to Dawson City. Make sure the ferry is running before heading to Dawson City.
Liard Hot springs is a must stop before heading on to Watson Lake. The spring is the best time to stop before the Mosquitoes come out.
Stop #1
Name: The Dalles, OR
Address: The Dalles, OR
Stop #2
Name: Osoyoos, BC
Address: Osoyoos, BC
Stop #3
Name: Kamloops, BC
Address: Kamloops, BC
Stop #4
Name: Grande Prairie, AB
Address: Grande Prairie, AB
Stop #5
Name: Dawson Creek, BC
Address: Dawson Creek, BC
Trip back South down the Cassiar:
Stop #1
Name: Anchorage, AK
Address: Anchorage, AK
Stop #2
Name: Tok, AK
Address: Tok, AK
Stop #3
Name: Beaver Creek, YT
Address: Beaver Creek, YT
Stop #4
Name: Burwash Landing, YT
Address: Burwash Landing, YT
Stop #5
Name: Haines Junction, YT
Address: Haines Junction, YT
Stop #6
Name: Whitehorse, YT
Address: Whitehorse, YT
Stop #7
Name: Watson Lake, YT
Address: Watson Lake, YT
Stop #8
Name: Boya Lake Park
Address: Jade City, BC V0C 1L0
Website: BC Parks - Province of British Columbia
Phone #: (250) 638-8490
Description:
Stop #9
Name: Dease Lake, BC
Address: Dease Lake, BC
Stop #10
Name: Bell II, BC
Address: Bell II, BC
Stop #11
Stewart, BC
Name: Rainey Creek Campground & RV Park
Address: 100 8th Ave
Stewart, BC V0T 1W0
Website: District of Stewart
Phone #: (250) 636-2537
Name: Hyder, AK
Address: Hyder, AK
Stop #12
Prince George
Stop #13
Cashe Creek
Frasier River Canyon
Stop #14
Hope
Stop # 15
Sumas border crossing
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02-21-2017, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by twogypsies
Wadders: It sounds like the perfect trip. Are you renting a RV? We've been to all those areas except 99 to Whistler. We entered Canada from Sumas, Washington and spent a night in Hope then headed north to Cache Creek from there.
You'll have plenty of time from the end of April to October to see everything!!
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We have our own RV, , currently in storage near LA...hope its still ok after all your storms.
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02-21-2017, 01:33 PM
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I would hit Banff, Lake Louise and Jasper on the way up in May. Make reservations now for all 3 if you want an electric site. Banff and Jasper also have full service sites too if you book early.
I would take the Alcan going up. (Banff/ Lake Louise / Jasper / Hinton / Grande Cache / Grande Prairie / Dawson Creek / Fort Nelson / Laird Hot Springs / Watson Lake / Whitehorse / Dawson City / Chicken AK. / Tok......and so on...
I also would make reservations now if you want to stay in Denali National Park. especially at the campground 29 miles inside the park (Tek). Watch out for "Dip Netting" season in the Kenai in July. Any campground or boon-docking near a fishing spot will be filled.
The Cassier traveling south seems to drive at a easy pace. The most northern few miles is very narrow, but as you head south the road gets better and better. I know the elevation difference is not that great, but it seems like it's downhill all the way.
Dump stations and water fill stations may not be open before May 15th. Many of the visitor centers will have dumps and water or check sanidumps.com.
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02-21-2017, 07:19 PM
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The only two reservations we made the last time we went were for Denali's Teklanika campground mid-August and the July 4 weekend in Palmer. These we only made a couple weeks prior when we could better judge when we would be there.
As it turned out we were early for the Denali reservation so on a whim we boondocked in a lovely spot not far from the park and the next morning drove into Denali. We easily secured an additional 5 nights in the front campground, Riley Creek for our 40' motorhome. We were in the park 10 nights and saw 'THE' mountain 7 of 10 days for many hours a day - beautiful weather. We also saw all of the big animals living in the park - some more than once. It was a fantastic stay!
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02-22-2017, 09:36 AM
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"THE' mountain 7 of 10 days"
You were very lucky. We see the Mt. in winter for long stretches but not so much in the summer time.
We are receiving many more visitor since gas prices have dropped, I might not wait to long for those reservations.
If you are heading to the Kenai peninsula things have changed a bit Caravn owners are booking large numbers of spaces on the popular weekends.
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02-22-2017, 10:53 AM
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We only had to make our reservations for Denali a couple weeks in advance and that was just about the only campground reservation we made on the entire trip.
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02-22-2017, 11:56 AM
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We also made reservations 2 days ahead of time for a Dawson City (YK.) campground and the one in Chicken AK. Both were mid June. The one in Dawson City ( Dawson City RV Campground) we got the last electric site available for 3 nights.
We also called a few days early for a site in Valdez at Allison Point City Campground. Only because we got a site on the water with a 50' walk to the waters edge to fish for Salmon (3 nights).
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02-22-2017, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Superslif
I would hit Banff, Lake Louise and Jasper on the way up in May. Make reservations now for all 3 if you want an electric site. Banff and Jasper also have full service sites too if you book early.
I would take the Alcan going up. (Banff/ Lake Louise / Jasper / Hinton / Grande Cache / Grande Prairie / Dawson Creek / Fort Nelson / Laird Hot Springs / Watson Lake / Whitehorse / Dawson City / Chicken AK. / Tok......and so on...
I also would make reservations now if you want to stay in Denali National Park. especially at the campground 29 miles inside the park (Tek). Watch out for "Dip Netting" season in the Kenai in July. Any campground or boon-docking near a fishing spot will be filled.
The Cassier traveling south seems to drive at a easy pace. The most northern few miles is very narrow, but as you head south the road gets better and better. I know the elevation difference is not that great, but it seems like it's downhill all the way.
Dump stations and water fill stations may not be open before May 15th. Many of the visitor centers will have dumps and water or check sanidumps.com.
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Not to highjack this thread and I have never been to Alaska and wanted to Superslif why Banff instead of Edmonton route? Is there more scenery or mountains or something else. ?
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02-22-2017, 02:30 PM
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Supersif great suggestion.
I agree with Supersif, Banff,Jasper is a great route especially if you have time to spend a few days in each, add Glacier National park and you've hit three great parks. April and May might be alittie early depending on the year it may still be winter.
Calgary/Edmonton "Western route" are large cities there are things to do or see but I tend to avoid such.
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02-22-2017, 08:26 PM
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Location: Willow, Alaska
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Trip up the Alaska Hwy
Good inputs by all. I'll add a few things. Gas tax in BC is much higher than in Alberta. Fill up in Grand Prairie AB on the way north. Costco was cheapest in town and right on main highway. Coffee Creek RV park just north of FT St John was only 30 dollars CDN last summer. It was the best campground in the highway. Immaculate bathrooms and heated water lines for year round use. Best gas price on highway was at Contact Creek, YT. Just an hour south of Watson Lake. We live in Willow AK and travel this highway at least twice a year. Exchange rate is a blessing right now. Good Luck
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