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Old 02-02-2015, 11:50 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
I never said their rule is illegal. But nowhere did I say it was the same as their prohibition on women being members.

That's why I don't understand the prohibition on atheists. By the Elks' own rules, a person's belief system will never be discussed, so what does it matter what it is?

Unless they use it to make assumptions about a person's character based on a person's belief that there is no God, which I would argue is as misguided as making assumptions about a person's character based on a person's belief that there is a God.
The Elks Lodge I belong to has women members. As a matter of fact , there have been several Women, Exalted Rulers.

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Here is a link to let you see where our lodges are located that have RV spaces.


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I joined the Moose for exactly that reason. They publish a couple booklets listing their lodges and info on facilities including RV parking. Unfortunately my lodge closed down and they transferred all memberships to another one that was too far away to easily go to. I asked for a demit but never got an answer back and it's been close to 10 years now. I even sent another letter and no answer again so I'm probably not a member anymore!
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As a Canadian, I decided to look to see if we have Elks in Canada and we do. In regards to becoming a member, they stipulate you have to believe in a Supreme Being. That could be almost anything you want it to be. I think even an atheist could figure out something/one that they think is "supreme". As it is worded, it could easily be a non-deity.
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I am almost sorry I started this question about Elk's facilities on another thread. What is most disturbing is the IGNORANCE shown in some of the posters regarding "Their" rules and beliefs when it is obvious the poster never did any reasonable research .

The Elk's also will not induct you if you have a felony conviction so check your background and your spouse too. They only want upstanding individuals who can offer to the organization responsible ownership of their membership. That means commitment to the causes of helping others especially children with disabilities.

I am not a member but do support their causes. IF you don't have a belief system in your personal life then stay away from organizations like this and other that ask you introspective questions like the Moose and Mason and Shriner s etc. They just don't want you to be around their personal spaces. If your only reason to join is find a parking space - you have other problems lurking between the ears.

And don't try to join any of the yacht clubs I am a member of because you must recite the Pledge to the flag which states "UNDER GOD". If your not a good fit then don't wear the pants.

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Well said LA Dagobago, that is why we all have choices. The Elks is a great organization but not for all!
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Personally I find this interesting to say the least, but I don't think we were to speak on this subject on irv2 ???
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There is no prohibition on women being members.
No, not any more. But women weren't allowed to be members until 1995, when the national organization changed the membership requirements.

Even after that, some local clubs still refused to admit women. As recently as 2005, an Elks lodge in New York settled a suit brought by the ACLU on behalf of a woman who was rejected for membership.

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If your only reason to join is find a parking space - you have other problems lurking between the ears.
The thing about disqualifying people for felony convictions is I'd bet that the vast majority of convicted felons believe in God, and an awful lot of them are religious. And not a few of them are/were religious leaders.

Until they got caught, and convicted, those people would not have been disqualified from membership, yet a person who can't or won't say he believes in God won't even be considered for membership.

Of course, they could just lie, but believe it or not, that's not how some Atheists roll.

Actually, if the Elks really wanted to get to people's character, they could ask them straight out, "Is the only reason you're joining to find a parking space?" Of course, that might cause problems for the lodges that specialize in attracting fulltime RVers who don't have a home lodge.

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