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Old 10-04-2013, 07:36 AM   #1
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en-route to Grand Can

I'm heading for the Grand Canyon. 12 way there they shut down the government. Now what? Is the any place I can see the Canyon and not be in a National Park?
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:54 AM   #2
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You might check Grand Canyon West. It's run by the Indians's since it's on their reservation. We thought it actually looked prettier there as well. You can stay in Kingman and drive to some little town where a bus will take you for an hour drive across the sand to the Skywalk. It's a little pricey but well worth the experience! WE did this a few years ago, so look on-line about the locations and information.
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If you have a 4x4 with somewhat high clearance, go to the north side and get a map of the Kaibab Nat. Forest, there are some dirt roads you can take right up to the rim. There are private campgrounds nearby but dont know what the weather is like there right now.
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Spend some time in Williams. I don't know if the train is running or not, but there's some interesting things to do and see in & around around there. Depending upon which way you are traveling and what you are traveling in Kingman has much to offer-museums etc, and you can take a side trip to old Route 66 points of interest like Oatman AZ. if that's something you find interesting. Google is your friend. BTW, if you saw the movie "Cars", you will recognize the Kingman City Hall building. We spent a couple of days there just exploring.
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Weather is gorgeous right now. 40 in am 70 in after noon. Southern UT has lots of state parks in the area. As for the dirt roads, I was down there last week and all are passable with anything with four wheel drive. Really nice canyon views.
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You might check Grand Canyon West. It's run by the Indians's since it's on their reservation. We thought it actually looked prettier there as well. You can stay in Kingman and drive to some little town where a bus will take you for an hour drive across the sand to the Skywalk. It's a little pricey but well worth the experience! WE did this a few years ago, so look on-line about the locations and information.
That used to be a school bus and it has got to be the roughest road (washboard) in the US. If you go, hope they have paved it since I was last there...I'd be surprised.
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I'm really sorry about your misfortune. I am a little biased, but the Grand Canyon is the greatest natural wonder in the world, to me. It should be accessible to everyone and it does not belong to the Feds, it belongs to the people. Not taking a political side here, but it and all the other parks are simply being held hostage.

The Governor of Arizona has offered to fund the park during the deadlock, to no avail.

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That used to be a school bus and it has got to be the roughest road (washboard) in the US. If you go, hope they have paved it since I was last there...I'd be surprised.
I doubt they have paved it. I took a different school bus ride coming off the river, at Diamond Creek (River Mile 225), all the way to Peach Springs. Washboard is the norm, but worth every bump.
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The Grand Canyon Railway has suspended operation.
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In Williams right now. Railway has shut down travel into the Grand Canyon. I heard you can head to Kingman. Other option... Helicopter tour.
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You can visit the Little Colorado River Gorge just west of Cameron, north of Flagstaff. This is the area where the tight rope walker crossed the canyon recently.
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Here is information on the Grand Canyon Train shutdown.

Impact of Government Shutdown | Xanterra Parks & Resorts, Inc.

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