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Old 04-27-2013, 07:02 AM   #1
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Howdy--Picking up friends in LA then headed to Grand Canyon in our 40 ft Providence. Staying in Williams at KOA. We have no Toad so will have to drive to park. Looking for a 5-6 hour hike to see Canyon picnic but need to park RV somewhere safe. Can anyone talk us through a planned area to see hike and park RV? Thanks in advance

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Old 04-27-2013, 11:21 AM   #2
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Its been a few years (6) since we were last there, but here is my suggestions. First you could take the train from Williams, it will drop you at the Grand Canyon Village where you can hike down part of the Bright Angle Trail. I am not sure how much time you will have by riding the train. I have never done that. But if you want to drive the rv, there is plenty of parking in this same area. You may have to walk a little ways to the village or trail head, but that doesn't sound like it would be an issue for you all if you are planning a 4-6 hour hike.
Be sure to take plenty of water, if I remember correctly there is only one stop on the Bright Angle Trail with water before you get to the plateau where there is a campground (Indian Garden Campground). This is about 3 miles from the rim to the campground. All downhill which is much harder on your toes than coming back up. Be sure to wear comfortable hiking boots. I mention boots for the ankle support, even though this trail is well maintained it is still a trail with lots and lots of steps and rocks. There is also quite an elevation drop in the first 2 miles, be prepared for a big temp change. Its usually much warmer the further you descend into the canyon. If you make īt to the campground and still want to go further I would suggest you take Tonto Trail south to Bright Angle Point where you see into the bottom of the canyon and the Colorado River. 2 things to be aware of, first the distances in the canyon are much further than they look & second only go as far as your weakest hiker can travel and return to the rim safely. Take most of your pictures on the way down. Most people wen going back up are not looking around as much, one due to being tired, two due to you are looking into the hill side not out into the canyon.

Have a great trip and post some pics when you get back.

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Old 04-27-2013, 12:47 PM   #3
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Did you know that there are 2 KOA's near Williams. The Williams/Circle Pines KOA and Grand Canyon/Williams KOA.

Neither KOA is in town or near the R/R tracks, plus the train ride takes a lot of your day, so we have always skipped that.

Are you thinking about hiking into the canyon? That's not our idea of fun, so cannot make any recommendations there.

The Grand Canyon/Williams KOA, right on 64, is nice...we stayed there last November. There were only 2 other RV's there. It is not near the R/R tracks so you won't hear the train toot-toot like at the other campgounds in Williams, but the trade-off is that there is none of the town near you for shopping or dining.

It's an easy drive in the RV to the Canyon, then park in the ample parking available.

If hiking in the canyon, it will be a moderate walk to the trail head or your choice and remember that going down is the easy part. The hike back to the RV is the hard part.

If you want to see more canyon than hike, I suggest that you park to see the main visitors center and adjacent rim, then load-up into the RV and head east. The drive will pass MANY pull outs where you can stop for different views. The drive can last for hours.
See: http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/index.htm

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Old 04-27-2013, 01:05 PM   #4
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There is a large parking area that will accomidate any size RV near the south rim visitors center. Another option would be renting a car in Williams.
There is also a campground/RV park in Tusayan less than 1 mile from the park entance. Car rentals available at Tusayan also.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:20 PM   #5
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You have friends along, what's the rush?

Stay in the Railroad Park in Williams, take the train, do your thing in G Canyon, stay overnight, and come back to Williams on the train the next day.
If you have a dog, the RR park has their own kennel, well done.

We had a nice trip on the train in early May 2 years ago. Snow/sleet going into Williams, only for a short while.
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The best place to stay is inside the park at Trailer Village. It's nothing special but it's very near the rim and the free shuttle stops right outside the campground entrance. You can ride the shuttle all day, getting on & off, doing some hiking, and getting back on. This is the very best way to tour the Canyon area. Parking lots can be a nightmare, especially with a big rig. Do consider staying IN the park. Like others have said, you'll probably want the Bright Angel Trail to give you a sense of being IN the canyon. However, it is very difficult both up and down so be aware how far to travel. Take more water than you think is needed. Definitely don't try to get to the bottom and return in one day. Someone suggested taking the train from Williams. First, it's a boring ride. Second, you will only have a few hours at the Canyon before having to leave. Any chance of bringing your towed? We wouldn't try to do a national park without one. However, again, try to stay IN the park at least and use the free shuttle.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:26 PM   #7
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Drive RV or rental car and park at the visitors center. From there you can jump on the shuttle bus and go to any trailhead. Going down into the canyon is very strenuous. If you are not that energetic then the Rim Trail is a very good alternative. It's 13 miles long and relatively easy. The west portion from Bright Angel Lodge area to Hermit's Rest will give you some spectacular views and if you poop out then you can just board the shuttle bus at any of the overlooks along the way.
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Neither of the KOA's are close to Williams. If you plan on spending any time in Williams, it would be best to stay in one of the RV parks there. Take the train to the GC, return the same day or stay over night. If you are not going to visit Williams, stay in Tusayan or in the GC park. Even if you stay at the KOA on 64, it about 40 miles to the park. We came through there on Thursday the KOA on 64 was fairly full.

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