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Old 09-21-2013, 06:43 PM   #1
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How does PassPort America work?

I have PPA and I understand the 50% off thing and I always check the listing for a particular park's restrictions on when I can use it.

My question is: If a park is, say $24 a night and they give it to you for $12, how do they make any money on it? I looked up one in Tonapah,NV which said it was a PPA park. When I talked to the proprietor(and I use this term veeeeery loosely), he said he was no longer a PPA park cuz they didn't give him what he was promised. I am wondering what he was promised? Does PPA reimburse the parks a percentage of the discount? I realize that being a PPA park may bring in more traffic, but I find it hard to believe it is that much to make it worthwhile for them.

Anyone know what the incentive is for the parks to be affiliated with PPA?
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I've often wondered that myself. I'll be listening. Thanks for asking.
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Many limit their PPA discount availability to slower days of the week, off season, etc. So most any income they can drive their way is likely welcomed.
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Old 09-21-2013, 07:13 PM   #4
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I stayed at 4 different ones Mon, Tue., Wed and Thursday night this week.
On overnight stays at 1/2 price. It usually still cost at least $1 an hour for my stay.
The one Wed. night I was the only camper in the campground.

And all of the others had many empty spots. And all were real happy that I stopped and stayed with them.

At 1/2 price they are not losing $$. I only hook up to the electric. Have my own water & black/gray tanks only need dumped every 7 days or so.

And there are not very many of $12 ones around any more. Usually $15 on up.
I would rather pay $15 for electric then stay at any Wally World or truck stop
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We also have been using PPA parks. Last night, we were the only RV in the campground. We are staying at another PPA park for the next couple of nights. There are few campers and the wifi is really good. We have a lifetime membership and have already recouped the cost.
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I'm not sure if any payback is used when a park becomes a PPA member. I have also been interested in that. I don't think so.

I do know that people have been turned away and the reason was that the park had agreed to a percentage of RV sites allocated to PPA, or even all combined discount programs. So when that percentage is full they can turn you away. In many of the write ups regarding a PPA park, the restrictions will usually say to "Call ahead for availability." Some PPA members have not done that and when they show up and are told that the CG is full they get upset because they can see empty spots. Yeah! Right! Who would guess that those could be reserved, right?

PPA is still a good deal in my book. I get my $44 back every year. Is it still $44? I did a 5 year membership.
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I don't think PA gives the campground a payment of any kind. I think what PA offers to the campground is a free listing on their website and the possibility of filling otherwise empty sites. The campground owner hopes he can at least break even at half price, and he hopes people will return for a full-price stay at some time in the future.

When the campground owner says PA didn't give him what they promised, I think he means being a PA campground didn't increase his business and didn't add to his bottom line.
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PAZ: That's why I would guess the c.g. owner wasn't happy with PPA. His business didn't increase like he had hoped and it's probably because of his RV park in general. Perhaps he had poor facilities that he needs to upgrade before getting more business. We've used PPA for 17 years and have always gotten back the money we've put into it. We don't actively seek out PPA parks because our first choices are always public parks but if we really need a private park for a day or two, that's where we look first - the PPA directory. We haven't been disappointed in PPA.
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Maybe it's just us, but at both of the parks that we frequent that use PPA, we stay longer now that they take it. For instance, Pechanga in the Temecula, California area takes it on weekdays. When visiting my daughter, we used to spend the weekdays at the local lake's state campground, but it's party city on the weekends. So we'd move to Pechanga for the weekend. Then back. Now we spend at least 2 weeks straight thru at Pechanga. And it is because of PPA.
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Yes. Many places do not enforce or will waive their PPA restrictions. Just ask.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:10 PM   #11
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Camping World has a sale on Passport America memberships for $39.95 plus three months free. I have been checking out the campgrounds and it seemed like a pretty good deal. Your endorsements reinforce my decision to purchase a membership tomorrow. Thanks!
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Most PPA campgrounds we've stayed at get more than 1/2 the normal fee after adding for many options, which they don't add on full price rates. One we've stayed at on I-70 in Kansas started at $12, then added $2 for 50A service, $2 for cable, and $2 for Wifi, which ended up $18 for a $24 site. Another one adds add'l for any electricity (I always wonder who would stay at a CG and not want electricity). Maybe not all PPA campgrounds do this but these are two that I've run into. And I'm running into both GS and PPA campgrounds that are limiting which sites can use the discount memberships, which are usually the least desirable sites in the campground. The discounts still help but not as much as is advertised.
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I have seen campgrounds with only a one day discount and I have seen unlimited discount. "Electricity additional" was on the listing for the unlimited discounted campground. Most of the campgrounds say "limited availability" and warn you to make reservations. Most of them seem to have a discount for only 2 days Monday - Thursday. It isn't perfect, but it is better than paying full price.
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Slightly off topic, but since you happened to mention Tonopah, NV, I wouldn't stay at any of the choices there. Tonopah (Nevada ) - Campground Reviews - RV Park Reviews

When we travel from Carson City to Las Vegas, we just make it a point to drive the 400+ miles straight through.
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