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Old 10-15-2014, 10:55 AM   #29
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Are there any websites that give a more up to date to the conditions for the roads? Will the Milepost mention sections of the Alcan or other routes that are regularly bad? year after year?

Another thread from someone who went up a year or two ago happened upon a section on the Alcan that got washed out and there was a 5 day closure.
The Milepost will have some info, but remember, the info was gathered the previous season or earlier. Any info will generally be somewhat academic anyway. The Alaska Highway is the ONLY road, so you either use it or not, there's no other choice. The best info can often be obtained at fuel stops as they're talking to folks who were just on the segment you are interested in. Regardless, what's the choice? Go home after a 4000 mile ride or go slow and deal with it? It really isn't that bad. We've taken 2 brand new Tiffins and a 2 year old Diesel Bounder up and we plan on about 100-200 miles on dirt and gravel each trip. Definitely not all on the Alaska highway, but by SLOWING DOWN you can see things others often miss or were too timid to try. These issues are not something to obsess about.

And yes, washouts and closures can happen, but again, what's the option? Go home or relax, meet new people and enjoy the spot you're stopped in? We've been held up for about 6 hours for a crash to be cleaned up. Just didn't get too up tight about it and lunch was delicious. Besides, we were "camped" on a paved road with a fabulous view, and it was free.
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"You are not allowed to use your guns in self defense against any human. If you do, you will be put in jail."

So, if you have a properly declared and registered long gun and a criminal with a gun threatens you, you are not allowed/expected to be able to use your long gun to protect yourself or save the life of your loved ones?? Do the Canadians expect you to just become a victim?
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"You are not allowed to use your guns in self defense against any human. If you do, you will be put in jail."

So, if you have a properly declared and registered long gun and a criminal with a gun threatens you, you are not allowed/expected to be able to use your long gun to protect yourself or save the life of your loved ones?? Do the Canadians expect you to just become a victim?


Most United States citizens don't get it.

It is THEIR country, not YOURS.

I don't make this information up. I was there.

My wife worries about being attacked. I served in the Marine Corps. Didn't own ANY guns till I was 60 years old. My guns were stored in my lower compartment. She was scared and I wasn't.
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The Milepost will have some info, but remember, the info was gathered the previous season or earlier. Any info will generally be somewhat academic anyway. The Alaska Highway is the ONLY road, so you either use it or not, there's no other choice. The best info can often be obtained at fuel stops as they're talking to folks who were just on the segment you are interested in. Regardless, what's the choice? Go home after a 4000 mile ride or go slow and deal with it? It really isn't that bad. We've taken 2 brand new Tiffins and a 2 year old Diesel Bounder up and we plan on about 100-200 miles on dirt and gravel each trip. Definitely not all on the Alaska highway, but by SLOWING DOWN you can see things others often miss or were too timid to try. These issues are not something to obsess about.

And yes, washouts and closures can happen, but again, what's the option? Go home or relax, meet new people and enjoy the spot you're stopped in? We've been held up for about 6 hours for a crash to be cleaned up. Just didn't get too up tight about it and lunch was delicious. Besides, we were "camped" on a paved road with a fabulous view, and it was free.
Pigman, that's how we do it. Met some of the nicest people at those "inconvenient" delays.
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I would say most RVers going up will be in a MH or DP...Having flown up to the Fairbanks area 5-6 times to visit family the last 15 years. We will most likely be in our 26' hybrid tt and Toyota truck. So extra care will have to be used on the rougher sections of road.

Having driven around the general area of Fairbanks including back roads, you come across locals who have no fear blasting by you kicking up gravel. Last Aug. was slowing down at a area that had sever frost heaves where gravel was laid to about 30-40 mph. a local blew by us at 60-70 mph kick up a boat load of stone right at us. Totally un-called for.
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If you drive anywhere, not just Canada's Alcan or Alaska, when you have gravel roads washboarding is common. That is what shakes your vehicle. Just slow down. We have travelled nearly every road in Alaska. There is nothing unusual up there. Nothing to worry about. Watch the Alaska state troopers program. They zoom along a 100 mph with no problems. We don't have to watch. We've been there.

Your MH will be gray. Clouds of grey dust. Be glad you're not driving a motorcycle..

Fast moving inconsiderate drivers are everywhere in the lower 48.
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"You are not allowed to use your guns in self defense against any human. If you do, you will be put in jail."

So, if you have a properly declared and registered long gun and a criminal with a gun threatens you, you are not allowed/expected to be able to use your long gun to protect yourself or save the life of your loved ones?? Do the Canadians expect you to just become a victim?
Not going to hijack but I can add to this a little.

The reality of the law in Canada is that self defense is justified to a point. Generally speaking, you can use the force "necessary" to protect yourself or your dwelling from someone engaged in a criminal activity. The limitation is that you have to use just enough force to protect yourself. You can't in other words, shoot someone who is trying to leave your house after you have caught them in the act. You can kill someone in self-defense in this country but you have to be prepared to show you didn't go overboard in protecting yourself. It is adjudicated on a case by case basis if it goes to court. In a blatantly obvious case, the crown probably won't even take it to court.

As for Alaska, the best months are generally July and August. There are many things to see. Don't go overboard at first or you might wear out on the stuff to follow. There are lots of old mines, towns, views of mountains. If you like hot springs, would definitely spend a day a Laird River Hotsprings. Dawson City is a must, Skagway is OK, I didn't find that much about it that was great. The train trip to and from was better than the town itself IMO. Take in a Klondike show or two. They can be quite entertaining and there are always things like mining museum's or gold mine tours if you are interested in what it like these days.
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Try these. They seemed fairly accurate while we were there.

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When you enter Canada the border personnel are not vague about this issue. The link below concerns a Canadian citizen and no one died or was shot. We as citizens of the United States of America are warned in no uncertain terms how shooting a human for any reason will end. You will be put in jail. My advice is to heed this on your way to Alaska. Make the decision to abide by Canada's law deep down inside of yourself. Don't allow fear to control you.

This is how it goes at the minimum.
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When you enter Canada the border personnel are not vague about this issue. The link below concerns a Canadian citizen and no one died or was shot. We as citizens of the United States of America are warned in no uncertain terms how shooting a human for any reason will end. You will be put in jail. My advice is to heed this on your way to Alaska. Make the decision to abide by Canada's law deep down inside of yourself. Don't allow fear to control you.

This is how it goes at the minimum.
Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers | National Post
Crossing the border with a hand gun in your vintage car, in your trailer behind your Motorhome , and then not declaring it when you cross, and they catch you, as they did to a buddy of mine ahead of me, was, the worst mistake he ever made! I had told him when we left Michigan, no guns right ? He said yes to me , so I do not feel sorry, especially since I was considered a suspect, just traveling along with him. He was banned from ever com into Canada for lifer! His fine was in the thousands, and because he had to turn a round, lost another 10 grand with all the events, hotel reservations reg. fees ( we were part of a groupe touring Alaskafor two months in our 70 year old cars)...they let me go on, but I was required to become a Canadian resident for two months, 500.00 / they took MasterCard.
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