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Old 07-19-2014, 01:37 PM   #29
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I live in Upstate New York on the Vermont state line near Lake Champlain. Anytime I have to head south to the Carolinas I get chills down my spine!I wish so many members of my family did not live in the Deep South.
New York's roads are a mess but Pennsylvania and I84 and I81 is even worse!
Roads do not improve until you get south of the big freeze/snow zone.
The big trucks and winter beat the roads to death, and that is a fact.
Everything going into New England comes by truck through New York and that makes it all the more congested. If you can drive up here you can drive anywhere! Please include New Jersey in this exclusive group!...I95 is Hell on earth!
My camping plans seem to involve New England more than points south whenever possible!
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FWIW I just ran my toll. PA to MA $36. ;-) There is a Motorhome rate for us little guys. I wonder where that falls out with the Bus chassis folks.
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Could not agree more.....but remember if they spent money fixing the roads, the politicians would have less money available for them to steal..........
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:04 PM   #32
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Could not agree more.....but remember if they spent money fixing the roads, the politicians would have less money available for them to steal..........
It's even better than that. The original proposal called for eliminating tolls when the bonds were paid off in the 90's. They were making so much money that they gave it the canal system instead. 100 yr old canals are soaking up a lot of toll money from the Thruway to repair all the locks. We thank you out of state folks... ;-))
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I am at home, used your calculator to figure my tolls, $113.75 from Pa. to Mass line, I paid a little less than $100. I will mail a check in the morning,
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I did the calculator too.. It was $ 68.80 for 4 axels .. NYS appreciates your
overpayment .. Of course any one traveling from Pa to the Mass line
could have had the trip at a much reduced fare by taking a different route.
Not hard to figure out with a paper map .
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We did enjoy our stay along Lake Ontario and our last stop at Hamlin Beach SP was really very nice, wonderful campground. Great fireworks display put on by the park right on the lake for the 5th. If you are in the Rochester lakefront area don't miss the Char-Pit for a great old fashion breakfast... eggs, with italian bread toast and fantastic homemade hot sauce.

So, besides the bumps on the Thruway we have to say that we had a wonderful time in the region.
Glenn,

The Char-Pit on Lake Avenue near the beach is and was my favorite hang-out when in Rochester. The very BEST custard you will ever have is also down past Char-Pit called Abbot's Custard.

I was born and raised in Rochester and spent many wonderful times at Charlotte Beach when it was THE place to enjoy the clean water.

Another place at the lake is Don & Bobs which is now called Don's Original as they had a falling out. It's over by where the Sea Breeze Amusement Park is located.

Both of those places have the BEST hamburgers and hot sauce one could ever want.

I will be back there for the fall of 2015 and loading up on great food.

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