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Old 07-01-2014, 09:39 PM   #1
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Angry New York Roads and Fees

I have visited several third world countries and have experienced some really bad roads but NY Interstate 90 is terrible plus expensive. We enter NY at the Pennsylvania state line and drove to the Mass. state line, our tolls added up to $97. NY should be ashamed to charge to travel these roads, unfortunately I am in Maine and have to go back through to get home but I will never visit NY in my motorhome again. I guess they are too busy limiting 32 0z. drinks and salt consumption to worry about something as insignificant as major roads. I know you are thinking; stupid why did you not slow down, it took me the better part of two days to cross this disaster.
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Old 07-02-2014, 05:43 AM   #2
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Montiem, I couldn't agree with you more. Thankfully we didn't have to travel all the way across the state. We just arrived in Rochester on Sunday to visit family for the 4th, having entered NY from the Ohio/PA side. I-90 was so bad in sections that my engine hatch actually popped open on the one side from the shaking and banging over the bumps. And they charge you real money for this experience. I was thinking of writing the governor and asking for a refund. If you are going to charge the public money to use a road it darn well ought to be a nice road. I'm not looking forward to heading west over those sections again.

Perhaps you should try I-80 on your return. I don't know if it is any better but hopefully it isn't any worse and at least you don't have to pay for the abuse.
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Montiem: If you'd have looked at a paper map of NYS you'd have found that you could have picked up I-86 just East of Erire Pa, and taken it to Binghamton NY, then I-88 up to Albany and miss out on the tolls. This route is ONLY 22 miles longer then going the Thruway. I don't know where you ran into all the rough roads! I drive the west end of I=90 ALL the time with my MH and have NO issues. In fact I spent 7 years driving to Rochester everyday with no Issue with the Semi I was driving at the time. Bear in mind though that we've just had our 3rd worst winter on record and yes there were a FEW pot hole issues. NYS isn't exempt form having road issue, I can remember a few years back driving I-55 out of Chicago and couldn't drive my Semi over 40MPH because my tires would leave the ground.
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You must be driving a hover craft or dreaming, that road should be closed and replaced. And I think the last post was correct, I deserve a refund and maybe damage repair on my motorhome and car.
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As stated use I-88 to Binghamton then I-86 to Erie Pa and the other poster going to Rochester use 88 and 390 these routes miss all tolls. Need to get rid of that GPS and go back to the old road atlas.
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As stated use I-88 to Binghamton then I-86 to Erie Pa and the other poster going to Rochester use 88 and 390 these routes miss all tolls. Need to get rid of that GPS and go back to the old road atlas.

I don't disagree that you can't just rely on a GPS without looking at a map. On the way to Rochester we were trying to run the lowest mileage and fastest route. We assumed the toll road would be a quality road, I don't mind paying.

Thanks for the suggestion, 390 to 86 may just be our route when we leave here.
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I have not been on 390 in 4 years so I'm not sure how it is but it wasn't bad then and I know 86 from Erie to Elmira was all redone because I worked on most of it till I retired. I wasn't saying GPS isn't good I use one but I found I still need to use the atlas to make sure I'm not going to end up on some dirt road. Hope you have a better trip back.
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If you are going west from Rochester try 390 to exit 4 and then Route 36 south to I 86 in Hornell, it cuts off an big chunk and then 86 west. One big hill to climb but worth the time and the hill is two lanes, lots of truckers use the same route. It is south then west instead of west then south on the Thruway. No tolls, more scenery and almost no traffic.


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And you'll shake the fillings out of your teeth on I86 thru the Seneca nation. Also saw that I86 was closed between exits 21 & 22. Sure wish NY would use milemarkers for exit #'s
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Actually this summer their totally resurfacing the stretch of I-86 that runs thru the Indian Reservation, I know that from exit 17 - 20 is all but done for sure.
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FWIW the Thruway is resurfaced constantly. It also carries a huge amount of truck traffic ripping it back apart. That's life.

I lived with a GPS for 10 years before I retired. GPS's do not pick the best route. Never! Anybody with an IQ above room temperature can do as well or better with a paper map. I have one in the MH plus Delorme on a laptop. Always cross check. As far as the superslabs go there is often a free route that roughly parallels them and can be shorter while a bit slower. Being retired I much prefer those to paying extra money to get worse milage in traffic going too fast with blah scenery. As they say, YMMV.
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I have to agree about the NY roads, my last trip there was in my truck/TT combo and I remember saying to DW that if the truck and trailer survive this punishment it will be a miracle. They did, I think, and now we have the MH and she has talked about traveling up there, my immediate reaction is that I can not imagine subjecting it to what the truck and trailed went through, can't imagine it surviving unharmed, seriously! Matter of fact we have trip to DC coming up next week, which I did last year too, and dread the drive on I-295 around Richmond, and the Beltway around Washington too. Last trip I thought for sure something would break. The shame of it is that when driving on a nice smooth road this thing is a pleasure to drive and ride in, but some of the roads out there are pure torture to me and the rig. I know the winter is brutal on the roads, and the traffic on some of the roads is intense, but what drive me nuts is that some of the repairs are worse than the broken pavement, and with all the advances in engineering and technology how come a bridge surface can not be matched with the road surface, or at least near enough that it doesn't shake my teeth loose to drive over it?

...And tolls, let's not even talk about that, none where I live and usually travel, and when we did the truck/TT trip to northern NY I swear the people at the booths just make up the toll as a joke and to see reaction from driver. I was at one where I had computed, based on the sign, what I expected and when taker told me her version it was more than double. When I asked how she computed that she said..."doesn't matter, pay or turn around!" seriously. Have also been places where I had to drive through booth without paying the toll because it was "Sunpass", or something like that, only!!
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I 2nd the I-88 / I-86 route.

We use that when we go to VT. from Cleveland. Another route would be drop down further south and hit I-80 across northern PA. Then pick up I-76 thru Ohio. 88/86 is much more scenic than the NY. pike.
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Two years ago on our cross country trip, We drove I-84 from near Austerlitz, NY down to near Florida, NY. It cost us $19.50 toll for our RV and toad. I don't remember exactly what the milage was for that leg. As a side note, this spring we drove our RV and toad across the Golden Gate Bridge and it cost us $28. We got that bill in the mail, (no toll takers anymore).


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