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Old 07-20-2019, 05:48 PM   #1
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Summer routing help request

We are in the Grand Canyon area thinking about heading to Idaho. It's July and hot. I am looking for suggestions for routing from Bryce NP to Mullan ID. If there are ways to beat the heat following a more mountainous route we would consider that provided we can negotiate the route and campgrounds with a 34' 5th wheel. Otherwise we would consider commercial campgrounds where we can run our A/C.

We prefer more rural over city camping and are equipped to boondock which we like to do but if the weather is really hot we have opted for commercial campgrounds for the A/C factor.

It looks like I-15 would get us there fast but if there is something prettier where the heat wouldn't be oppressive we'd prefer that. We have no particular time frame. We prefer to hang out at nice places for a week or more but will blow through areas to avoid unfavorable weather.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Are you at Grand Canyon South Rim? Another stop could be the North Rim - lots of boondocking just before the NP gate - turn rt. just beyond DeMotte NF campground. Very cool temps.

Take 89 north to UT14 to Duck Creek area - N.F. area. Day trip up 14 to Cedar Breaks (cool temps). Then backtrack to Bryce - cool.

From Bryce backtrack to 89N to I-70 east to UT 10/6/191 to Duchesne, UT - cool temps.

Take 40 west to Heber City area - cool. Then 84 to I-15 a Odgen, UT

Take I-15 north to ID26/93 just south of Idaho Falls.

Take 93 to Challis/Stanley (Sawtooth Nat'l Rec. Area) and on to Salmon, ID - beautiful boondocking spots all along the river and lots of NF campgrounds & the Nat'l Rec. campgrounds. We were in Stanley one July and there was a 50 degree drop in temp at night! Go north to I-90 at Missoula, MT then west to Mullan, Montana.

I want to go with you!!! Some nice countrysides!

We've done all these roads often with our 40' motorhome. We used all public campgrounds or boondocking. The only driving issue you may have is if you continue up UT14 from Duck Creek to I-15. It's a steep drive with a RV.
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Are you at Grand Canyon South Rim? Another stop could be the North Rim - lots of boondocking just before the NP gate - turn rt. just beyond DeMotte NF campground. Very cool temps.

Take 89 north to UT14 to Duck Creek area - N.F. area. Day trip up 14 to Cedar Breaks (cool temps). Then backtrack to Bryce - cool.

From Bryce backtrack to 89N to I-70 east to UT 10/6/191 to Duchesne, UT - cool temps.

Take 40 west to Heber City area - cool. Then 84 to I-15 a Odgen, UT

Take I-15 north to ID26/93 just south of Idaho Falls.

Take 93 to Challis/Stanley (Sawtooth Nat'l Rec. Area) and on to Salmon, ID - beautiful boondocking spots all along the river and lots of NF campgrounds & the Nat'l Rec. campgrounds. We were in Stanley one July and there was a 50 degree drop in temp at night! Go north to I-90 at Missoula, MT then west to Mullan, Montana.

I want to go with you!!! Some nice countrysides!

We've done all these roads often with our 40' motorhome. We used all public campgrounds or boondocking. The only driving issue you may have is if you continue up UT14 from Duck Creek to I-15. It's a steep drive with a RV.
I forgot to specify we are at the south rim. And thanks so much for all your suggestions. Can't wait to start investigating them!
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Are you at Grand Canyon South Rim? Another stop could be the North Rim - lots of boondocking just before the NP gate - turn rt. just beyond DeMotte NF campground. Very cool temps...
I've been looking for boondocking in the area you mentioned near the north rim of the Grand Canyon but haven't found any areas either Forest Service or BLM using AllStays and the web. Can you provide mores specifics by any chance? URLs, names, coordinates?

Also, in the Duck Creek area were you referring to Lava Flat Dispersed or Uinta Flat Dispersed?

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For Grand Canyon North Rim boondocking spots use this site map - link given below - of DeMotte campground to zero in on the area. Take 67 south from Jacob Lake, AZ toward the North Rim. Note that all of this land from Jacob Lake is national forest land so if you see an area to get to as you're driving you can use it. 89A east from Jacob Lake also has some easy to get to boondocking spots not far from the highway before the highway starts it's big drop to the valley.

So... 67 south to DeMotte national forest campground. At the very next unpaved road - good flat gravel - take a right (west) and just drive back a short distance and you'll begin seeing boondockers. It's F.S. 22.

Duck Creek area.... We always came in from 89 to avoid the steep Hwy 14 toward I-15 and it's not far to Uinta Flat and Lava Flat from 89. We liked Lava Flat better as it's a little quieter. Weekends are busy at both with ATVers. There are also many forest service campgrounds in the area.

When finished with Bryce and if you want to get directly over to I-15, take Hwy 20 just north of Panguitch. It's an easy crossing in this area.

https://www.recreation.gov/camping/campgrounds/234722

For scouting out boondocking spots we always disconnected our towed Jeep and looked for suitable sites. You have a 5th wheel so can't do that until you're parked & disconnected so you might have to do that and perhaps move to a different spot that you found driving around in your truck. Either works.
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For Grand Canyon North Rim boondocking spots use this site map - link given below - ...
https://www.recreation.gov/camping/campgrounds/234722
Didn't see any map at that link, just the standard rec.gov camground info. Easy enough to find Demotte. I don't like to head into an area that I don't have a really good feel for the camping or lay of the land. Unhitching to scout for a site is something I loathe to do especially when I don't know for a fact something can easily be found. Driving up a forest road hoping for a place to turn around rather than knowing there will be one is not something I will ever do. I want to know rigs like mine have made it in and out without issues, coordinates for campsites, I like to see photos of the area area etc. I have not been able to find enough info for the area you describe in order to be comfortable heading into it.

I guess in terms of this area I'm just going to have to pass unless I can find more of the info I need in order to be comfortable, but thanks for all your help on it. Maybe I'll call the Forest Service and see what they say. Thanks again.
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About that link.... do you see the DeMotte campground map at the bottom? Switch to satellite view and use the +plus sign or -sign to zoom in or out and you can see the road I described. The road is at the round circular mud puddle at the highway. There are very good spaces not far back and the pine trees are widely dispersed with room to turn around, if needed. There are many big rigs using it; including us with a 40' motorhome. Get a site at DeMotte campground for a night and then scout the boondocking areas.
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