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Old 06-16-2013, 03:04 PM   #43
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A lady complained during the meet and greet about one of the handicap cart drivers questioning her right to get a ride. She said even if I don't look handicap, that she had multiple back surgeries and couldn't walk far. This place gets stranger by the day.

This is the first rally I have ever been too, that I will be glad to go home. I am usually wishing it would last several more days.
At one FMCA rally they had handicapped only golf carts, yet they consistently passed us by even though my wife was using one of the rolling walkers and picked up non handicapped people. Our name badges had the handicapped symbol on them too so it was easy to determine who should be riding then golf carts.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:33 PM   #44
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True but NY and some other NE State Parks don't provide much service. So it can be like boondocking with friends.
But at 50' I don't fit in them all....
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:37 PM   #45
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1. Stuff happens, "Breathe in Breathe out move on ..." (J. Buffett)
2. If you don't like the way an organization is being run get involved at some level and make a positive change.
3. Not all volunteers are created equal, some do a better job than others.
4. Not all handicaps are visible, not everyone understands that.
5. If you are not part of the solution you may be part of the problem.

Our first big RV rally but we have attended and volunteered at several large Motorcycle Rally's, volunteered as campground hosts and appreciate the difficulties in making it pleasant for participants.

I do not mean to offend anyone.

flame suit on.

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1. Check
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3.... 4.... 5....
... no argument here.
Had the mall thrown us out I might have had a different outlook, but I will try it again......

Ctcamper, how did you make out?
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Thanks for reminding me why we don't go to Rallies.
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Thanks for reminding me why we don't go to Rallies.
X2 - If ya need a list and 5 Step Program to deal with the frustrations of something you volunteer and pay for - may be time to reconsider....
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We also arrived Thurs afternoon and was diverted to the mall. At first I was disappointed but as it turns out, was much better off. The Destiny Mall got all my spending money because firstly, it was now handy , and next, huge deals in the many of the stores (Canadian, eh) but mostly because there were no Deals at the vendor show. NO deals. They didn't get a cent from me. And I came willing to buy lots. Too bad. Camping World's prices were everyday pricing. Vendors were over charging. I could document example after example but, what's the point. Hey Good Sam, thanks for the Great Mall Shopping Trip!
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I know I'm opening myself up for the big flame - but what is the initial appeal? Many of us don't care much for CW - we get the 10% off at places that are probably 10% more than they would or should be without discount cards - and they always look like big crowds for little return. And big crowds of Motorhomes - most of us don't care too much for that either. I don't get it at all. Help me understand. I don't want to miss something - are they ever worth it?
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We've been full-timing for over 2 years and have been to exactly one rally, our first and last. I'm a savvy enough RVer not to need any more seminars on "how to clean your black tank" and other fun topics. I don't care to listen to second rate entertainers who play to the rubber chicken circuit or has-beens like Wayne Newton. And I don't need any more opportunities to buy over-priced cleaning products and kitchen gadgets with all the usefulness of Ginzu knives.

We, too, would rather explore North America and see its wonderful sights. We visited 8 US national parks last year and are headed for a couple of Canadian ones this summer. I would much rather look out on snow-capped mountains in July than at rows of RVs parked along side us. We like going where we want to go and seeing what we want to see. We're not anti-social and have made lots of friends of people we have met along the way.

I know there are RVers who go from rally to rally and that's the primary use of their rigs. That's great and I'm glad that's what they enjoy. That's simply not how we like to use ours.
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We've been full-timing for over 2 years and have been to exactly one rally, our first and last. I'm a savvy enough RVer not to need any more seminars on "how to clean your black tank" and other fun topics. I don't care to listen to second rate entertainers who play to the rubber chicken circuit or has-beens like Wayne Newton. And I don't need any more opportunities to buy over-priced cleaning products and kitchen gadgets with all the usefulness of Ginzu knives.

We, too, would rather explore North America and see its wonderful sights. We visited 8 US national parks last year and are headed for a couple of Canadian ones this summer. I would much rather look out on snow-capped mountains in July than at rows of RVs parked along side us. We like going where we want to go and seeing what we want to see. We're not anti-social and have made lots of friends of people we have met along the way.

I know there are RVers who go from rally to rally and that's the primary use of their rigs. That's great and I'm glad that's what they enjoy. That's simply not how we like to use ours.
Well said. That's exactly our position.
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Hi BCooke, hope you are doing ok ...
I left one day early. Both of us were just too tired to go another day. They sent us 2-3 miles up the road to get on 690 eastbound instead of letting us go on across from gate 2. I could understand that tomorrow during mass exodus but it was quiet this morning. I am not surprised after everything else.

I want to add again, I got there early to avoid all this stuff. I have been in dog shows in sand storms, high enough winds to take down the big tents, Downpours on grass and lots of mud over the years. An enterprising farmer at one show once was charging 300 to pull the motorhomes out lol He was cheaper then the wrecker so he cleared a tidy profit I guess.
But bad as the weather was here, this was handled worse than any place I have been. Since syracuse has such bad weather, it makes me wonder why they put this together without a clue what to do if it did rain.
Someone I was talking to came after 5 on Thurs and they parked them in a great spot inside the fairgrounds. She said there were several nice spots they never filled, that were not affected by the rain to the extent they were unusable. Yet I spotted plenty of people that had problems moving around and had to walk to the bus stop. Not even the courtesy of carts to ferry people in the lots to the buses....You can't say they didn't have the people, I saw plenty sitting around on carts chatting. I understand they are volunteers but that is what you volunteer to do. I know I have done it and will again.

I was talking to someone I knew and they had the same type of problem 10 years ago with them parking people miles away. He lost out on access as he also had a scooter he had to use and the buses couldn't take him.

I'll go back to my FMCA... I have my chapter friends which are the glue holding me there. I don't do alot of the rallies but just the ones with my friends. I have made some really good friends at those chapters. And the small prerallys or other chapter rallies are the best times. I have found many of our chapter people do just the chapter rallies or the prerallies and skip the main for much the same reasons. At least FMCA you can talk to the people running things. GoodSam has become commercial and retail oriented. Free giveaways and gift certificates they graciouly hold drawings for ... HAHAHAHA it's a FRACTION of the profit made and people gobble it up....

On seminars, I have had ONE great seminar in ALL the rallies. It was a member putting on a demonstration of cooking with a cast iron dutch oven. He wasn't selling things, he was there to give others what he learned. That was educational.

If they have to park someone miles away or anywhere you have to bus the people in, I find it hard to accept getting charged the same price as the people within the compound. I would be able to justify my parking in a pubic access lot if the cost was signifiently reduced but full price... NO
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The name Good sam comes from the Bible parable of the Good Samaritan, which tells of a traveler from the region of Samaria who helped a person along the road who had been robbed and beaten. The way I see it now, Good Sam has now become the robber.
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I am surprised that no one has added that along with all the problems the Rally was advertised on local TV. The town was invited to attend for only $10. a day and our people were used to manage all the addition people. I would be upset if I had been working the rally. I thought it was for Good Sam members not the entire community. This and the rude and unorganized parking people have made this my first and last Good am Rally. I pulled in Wed 9:00 Am with 6 others and we were put in two lots and spread all over. At one point I was told to drive my 33000 pound coach cross country through a lake. When I refused the parker has a fit and stormed off. I bet he would not have driven his coach through that lake. I stayed on the road. Ended up in the first row of the brown lot which was not that bad. As for the generator what is the difference if my generator runs all night or theirs does except theirs costs me another $200. Noise level is the same.
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sounds like a few whiners out there. i for one had a great time. i arrived on tuesday was parked on the horse track, m.h. got very muddy, but all i need to do is wash when i get home not a problem. i attented a few seminars all were good some better than others some imfomercials but i learned somethjing at all. met with some manufactures and they answered all my questions, sure i had to wait as there were others asking questions but i was in no hurry. people complained about the walking..... walking is good for you and if more people walked more maybe they would be in better shape. parking was aproblem but can't control the weather. i for one can not wait to go to the next good sams rally
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This was my first rally. Got there Thursday morning just as the monsoon was starting. No one could have prepared for that much rain in that short of a time. I think GS did an amazing job of adjusting to the problem. I talked to alot of people over the weekend and 99% were pleased with the job GS did. You will always have the 1% of people who will complain no matter what happens. They feel that everyone should drop everything ,ignore everyone else and just accomidate them. Will I run to the next rally? No. Didn't feel it was really my thing. There was a lot of talk about bringing in younger members but the Rally was aimed at the retired crowd. I am not complaining,GS has to run the Rally for the members they have and thats ok. I am sure I will attend one again but I will wait a while.
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I was a volunteer at The Rally. I worked 18hrs in the rain to try and to help you park your rig. We did the best we could given the circumstances. Did you? Here's some things to think about.

Most people attending were very patient, some of course were not. Some groups that came together got seperated before the fairgrounds. Some at the fairgrounds. The Rally directions asked that the TOADs be disconnected before entering the fairgrounds. If you did not, you probably got seperated while you disconnected your TOAD. Oh well I guess that was my fault. I should have held up the fifty rigs behind you and have everybody wait for you. [moderator edit]

[moderator edit] I watched many rigs flounder because they would not follow directions given by a volunteer. They knew better or they disagreed with where they were parking or who they were parking with. Again, everyone had to wait for you. Add the rain, add that your red or green placard was not posted to help the Sheriffs and the volunteers, and that you failed to ask for a handicap designator on your red/green placard just added to the confusion.

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Was it the best rally? Probably not due to the weather. By the way, refunds were given for those parked at the Mall and if you needed to be towed, the GS picked up the cost. This was another point of view from someone who tried to make your Rally experience pleasurable. JM2...
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You should add ear plugs to your checklist of items to have in your RV. Would save you from listening to the road noise as well as a snoring spouse at night.
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