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Old 01-29-2018, 08:17 AM   #1
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Best route to Yellowstone from the northwest

We're mapping out our two and a half month trip and we need to define some interesting and safe routes to follow. We will be in British Columbia at Jasper, Banff, Glacier, and Revelstoke in late August. We then are scheduled for Yellowstone for a week. We intend on seeing Mt Rainier and US Glacier National Park while in route to Yellowstone. We have a week of travel or sightseeing time between Banff and Yellowstone.

We're towing an ORV 24KTS with our F150.

Are there any routes or passes to steer clear of? Any sites or Apps that help with this type of request?

Any preferences or favorite route into Yellowstone?

Any thoughts of sites that must be seen in these areas?

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I don't know if Revelstoke will be your first stop or last but I'd suggest at the end getting on 95/93 toward Radium Hot Springs (stop for a soak) and continue south on 93 to the Roossville border crossing at Montana. You'll be on the western side of Glacier Nat'l Park, U.S. At Whitefish take Hwy 2 east to enter Glacier.

From Glacier to Yellowstone you could take 83 south through Swan Lake/Condon/Seeley Lake and then pick up 141 to Avon then I-90 to Deer Lodge/Butte and take 287 south to Ennis (Nevada City Ghost Town is well worth a visit). Continue on 287 to 191 into the town of West Yellowstone which is at the national park's west entrance.

For visiting Yellowstone, about 4 mi. north of the town of West Yellowstone is a wonderful national forest campground called Baker's Hole. It has some electric sites but the best sites are toward the rear and don't have hookups. There's no dump station there so you'd have to go to a RV park in W. Yellowstone to dump.

Or.... there are many campgrounds in Yellowstone itself - highly recommended to save on driving. Yellowstone is HUGE. Inside the park is one full hookup park called Fishing Bridge and it's also very convenient for touring the park.

Read all sections of the official Yellowstone web site. Lots of good information on things to do, road information, camping:

https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/campgrounds.htm


Here's another interesting site on Yellowstone:

http://www.yellowstone.co/maps/campgroundmap.htm

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I think your time would be better spent in Yellowstone, and save the side trip to Mt Rainier for another trip. Rainier is a huge detour, and in late August, your time is running short at Yellowstone. You are so close you should see Tetons also.

Rainier and the pacific northwest is a summer unto itself.

Just south of W Yellowstone, is a beautiful spot called Mesa Falls, look it up, its worth a short trip to see.
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I don't know if Revelstoke will be your first stop or last but I'd suggest at the end getting on 95/93 toward Radium Hot Springs (stop for a soak) and continue south on 93 to the Roossville border crossing at Montana. You'll be on the western side of Glacier Nat'l Park, U.S. At Whitefish take Hwy 2 east to enter Glacier.

From Glacier to Yellowstone you could take 83 south through Swan Lake/Condon/Seeley Lake and then pick up 141 to Avon then I-90 to Deer Lodge/Butte and take 287 south to Ennis (Nevada City Ghost Town is well worth a visit). Continue on 287 to 191 into the town of West Yellowstone which is at the national park's west entrance.

For visiting Yellowstone, about 4 mi. north of the town of West Yellowstone is a wonderful national forest campground called Baker's Hole. It has some electric sites but the best sites are toward the rear and don't have hookups. There's no dump station there so you'd have to go to a RV park in W. Yellowstone to dump.

Or.... there are many campgrounds in Yellowstone itself - highly recommended to save on driving. Yellowstone is HUGE. Inside the park is one full hookup park called Fishing Bridge and it's also very convenient for touring the park.

Read all sections of the official Yellowstone web site. Lots of good information on things to do, road information, camping:

https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/campgrounds.htm


Here's another interesting site on Yellowstone:

Yellowstone National Park Campground Map ~ Yellowstone Up Close and Personal

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Your suggestion is more direct and sounds like it gives us more time on site at Glacier NP. We have a seven day reservation at Fishing Bridge, we may add a few days at Bakers Hole also.
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I think your time would be better spent in Yellowstone, and save the side trip to Mt Rainier for another trip. Rainier is a huge detour, and in late August, your time is running short at Yellowstone. You are so close you should see Tetons also.

Rainier and the pacific northwest is a summer unto itself.

Just south of W Yellowstone, is a beautiful spot called Mesa Falls, look it up, its worth a short trip to see.
The DW says we're going to Mesa Falls. She liked the suggestion. If we take the direct way into Glacier NP then we have several weeks after we leave Yellowstone to go to Olympic NP. Then we have several weeks of boon docking in and around Mt Rainier and northern California.
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As Cruzbill stated, be sure to explore Grand Teton Nat'l Park which borders Yellowstone to the south. They are completely different in looks. There are two large dry campgrounds in the park - Colter Bay and Gros Ventre. Sites are always open. There's also Colter Bay RV (next to the campground) if you want hookups. You can drive south through Yellowstone park to get into Grand Teton.
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As Cruzbill stated, be sure to explore Grand Teton Nat'l Park which borders Yellowstone to the south. They are completely different in looks. There are two large dry campgrounds in the park - Colter Bay and Gros Ventre. Sites are always open. There's also Colter Bay RV (next to the campground) if you want hookups. You can drive south through Yellowstone park to get into Grand Teton.
I should’ve addressed that, sorry Cruzbill. We intend on driving into Grand Teton from Fishing Bridge CG, Yellowstone. Any suggestions as to the percentage of time to spend in Grand Teton vs. Yellowstone?
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Some general information about YNP (some items apply to GTNP also)

YNP is about 45 miles E/W and about 65 miles N/S (2.2 mil. Acres total). The figure 8 loop road inside the park is about 140 miles around. The lower loop is 96 miles and the upper loop is 70 miles around and yes, it is bigger than the states of Rhode Island and Delaware combined.

Whatever time that you think you will need to see YNP you better double it, or to say it another way is that you will see one half as much as you planned on in the allotted time. The Bison think that they own the road (they do!) and will slow down the traffic to walking speed or all stop for 1/4 mile or more blocking both directions of travel, the thermal attractions also tie up traffic and with a 5 month long summer tourist season that coincides with a 5 month long road construction season and a 45 MPH radar controlled speed limit it will take about a full day to see each loop and then you will only see the main attractions. In addition to the occasional construction delays they will also sometimes close whole sections of road (for uninterrupted night construction) between 10 PM and 8 AM in the morning, if you are running late and get caught at night in the wrong area it CAN be a LONG way around to your CG! (The entrance stations will have current construction information or go on line to check it out)

Then there is the elevation- YNP ranges from a low at Mammoth- 6239 ft to 7784 ft at Fishing Bridge or higher if you go hiking and there are passes on the grand loop road that are close to 8000 ft or so! Drink plenty of liquids and pace yourself when walking.

I recommend that you get up EARLY, leave the CG and be back by 4 or 6 PM have dinner and be sitting in your recliner drinking a cool one when your neighbor drags himself back to the CG at 8-10 PM. Remember that from mid May to mid July in YNP the sun doesn't set until about 9:30- 9:45 PM then there is a long twilight.

Cell Phone Service- Only at the major visitor centers, otherwise spotty to non-existent!

Clothing- Especially in the early or late season it is not unusual to have a 30 or even the occasional 40 degree temperature change throughout the day. Dress with easily shed layers of clothing. Also dress in bright easily seen clothing. I am sure that we all have been to a sporting event, parade or Disney World etc. and we blink our eyes and our partner/child has disappeared. My DIL was born and raised in HI, you guessed it, every Xmas, b-day or Father's Day I receive a Hawaiian shirt. One of them is shiny black with 4-5 inch dia. bright flowers. Not many of them in Wyoming and in YSNP, that is what I wear. If your partner has on a Violet blouse and a Orange scarf with a Pink hat I guarantee that she will be the only one within the boundaries of either NP. It can save you a few anxious moments.

Water- Now I will have to contradict myself, at the altitude of YNP yes, drink lots of water! HOWEVER, be aware that the flush toilet restrooms are are in the major tourist areas- Mammoth, Canyon, Fishing Bridge, Lake Hotel, Bridge Bay, Grant Village, Old Faithful, Madison Junction etc. The geyser basins and other thermal attractions areas only have pit toilets. I have seen the pit toilet line at the lower Geyser Basin (2 holes) 25 or more feet long (bless the tour buses) So be smart about drinking your water and use the major tourist area R/Rs before leaving the area! I.e. “Never pass up a flush toilet!”

Sun- At YSNP altitude the Sun is intense (uv)have and apply sunscreen, wear that old floppy wide brim sun hat, wear Sunglasses!

If your luck is like mine Old Faithful will have just erupted when you get there and you will have up to a hour and 10 to 15 minutes wait for the next one. Tour tour the O/F Geyser basin while waiting. O/F INN is a must see, reportedly the largest LOG building in the U.S. (Meals in the O/F dinning room are “OK” also.

We have lived about 110 miles from West Yellowstone, MT since 1964, go to YSNP 3-4 times a summer (normally before Memorial Day and after Labor Day) and haven't seen it all yet! So don’t be discouraged that you didn’t have the time to see all of it. Just plan on coming back another time!

I honestly don’t mean to scare or discourage you but to give you a heads up as to what to expect! After all there was 4.1 million visitors in 2015! As far as I know we didn’t lose one of them. Except those who by their own stupidity step off the board walks into BOILING HOT water and ignoring the warnings about the WILD ANIMALS! That is called purifying the gene pool!Early in the summer of 2017 a foreign visitor stepped off a boardwalk into just a few inches of hot water. He walked about 100 yards (according to the newspaper) broke thru the crust and parboiled himself. The park service decided not to try to retrieve the body! Between the temperature of the water and the acidity of it the body would just fall apart when retrieving it as well as being dangerous to the rangers. Of course a few Bison fall in every winter also.

Note I have seen on this blog and others about folks “day tripping” from YSNP to GTNP, it is done all the time (myself included) however remember this is BIG country and with the speed limits, animals and thermal attractions you will NOT come close to a 65 MPH average. From the West Thumb Area, Grant Village Visitor Center (extreme S/E corner of the lower loop road) to Jackson, WY is about 80 miles with Coulter Bay being about 1/2 way then from Grant Village you have to add the distance to your CG it will be a Long days trip!

A point of Coulter Bay (in GTNP) clarification- there are two (2) CG’s at Coulter Bay, One, the “Coulter Bay RV Park” a full service “RV Park” with FHU’S that takes reservations. The other is the “Coulter Bay Campground “ has no hookups and doesn’t take reservations. Both have about 300 sites and are basically across the road from each other.

Also in GTNP be sure to see Jenny Lake, the water is swimming pool clear! You almost feel like you are in space when you are on the boat dock and can see the rental boat shadows on the bottom of the lake!

When in the Jackson area I highly recommend seeing the Bar J Chuckwagon dinner show! If you go, MAKE RESERVATIONS and BE THERE EARLY TO PICK UP YOUR MEAL TICKETS/ TABLE SEATING ASSIGNMENTS! They seat you by when you show up to get your tickets NOT by your reservation number. Tim, their fiddle player has won the "Idaho state old time fiddle contest 7 times and the US open fiddle championship twice". If you decide to go you will sit at picnic type of bench seats/table, they get pretty hard, I recommend that you take along a blanket/pads to sit on. We day trip it there 2-4 times every summer just to see them! Disclaimer- We have no financial or other interest in the Bar J only that it will be the best $$ value for your money for your trip! Check out their website.

Bar J Chuckwagon

Also in Jackson check out the “COWBOY” bar, the bar stools are saddles and the # of Silver Dollars in the bar. The Wort Hotel Bar (just around the corner from the Cowboy Bar) also has Silver Dollars imbedded in the Bar
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Some general information about YNP (some items apply to GTNP also)

YNP is about 45 miles E/W and about 65 miles N/S (2.2 mil. Acres total). The figure 8 loop road inside the park is about 140 miles around. The lower loop is 96 miles and the upper loop is 70 miles around and yes, it is bigger than the states of Rhode Island and Delaware combined.

Whatever time that you think you will need to see YNP you better double it, or to say it another way is that you will see one half as much as you planned on in the allotted time. The Bison think that they own the road (they do!) and will slow down the traffic to walking speed or all stop for 1/4 mile or more blocking both directions of travel, the thermal attractions also tie up traffic and with a 5 month long summer tourist season that coincides with a 5 month long road construction season and a 45 MPH radar controlled speed limit it will take about a full day to see each loop and then you will only see the main attractions. In addition to the occasional construction delays they will also sometimes close whole sections of road (for uninterrupted night construction) between 10 PM and 8 AM in the morning, if you are running late and get caught at night in the wrong area it CAN be a LONG way around to your CG! (The entrance stations will have current construction information or go on line to check it out)
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First I really appreciate the effort put forth to pass this very informative post along! The one thing that impresses me more than anything is the obvious consideration for hydration. Working here on the farm I have two large containers of water I need to finish each day. I hadn't considered the lack of readily available facilities. Nor the waiting lines that have to include the local natural livestock serving as roaming speed bumps between the facilities.

Now the clothing is another eye opener. I have often taken issue with the 5'1" DW getting lost in a crowd or even in large stores. I've teased her about tying a bicycle flag to her so I can find her. If cell phone coverage is spotty at best, I obviously need a plan B. I wonder if I could convince her to wear a bell? I'll probably take the safe route and suggest a vibrant colored hat and shirt as you suggest.

It's my desire to move out west and have the ability to see these treasures at will, I haven't convinced the DW yet, as she has yet to see the splendid vistas that made such an impression on me as a fourteen year old. Perhaps after seeing this the DW will have the same burning desire to return and see the rest of the story. If this is our only shot at doing this type of lengthy trip, then we have to make the best of the time we have. Obviously the knowledge that you folks have passed along will help is immensely. Thank you all!
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