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Old 08-26-2014, 07:25 PM   #43
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Kind of like Oregon, huh? I'm covered by HR218 but still cautious about carrying and storing firearms as are my family.

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Old 08-30-2014, 07:31 PM   #44
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I found an article (will have to find my printed copy) that states Federal Law trumps any state law. That said, federal law allows you to transport a gun across any state, I would think that as long as you were "traveling" thru NJ that federal law would be applicable.

I have also read articles about the book being thrown at some one with a non registered gun in NJ.
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I have a small lockable gun safe that is secured with a padlock in my vehicle. I can put my weapon in it, lock it, and in Minnesota I am legal to leave it in my car. When I enter Federal Property or the Court House I use it. I find out what the laws are and I obey them.
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This is possibly be a silly question but here it is. I'm assuming all of this thread is in regard to a hand gun, does the matter change if you are carrying say a shotgun for personal safety?

I've thought go taking a 410 just to have on those occasion that I boondock in the boonies.
There are mixed answers to this. In many states including Michigan it is illegal to travel with a loaded long gun in your vehicle. Others states don't care. I am not aware of a list about state by state laws this subject.

Note: FYI there are pistols available that shoot 410 shotgun shells.
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Don't get pulled over in NJ. Every few weeks I see an article in the paper about some poor guy who is transporting a gun that is legal in his home state but not in NJ because he does not have a Firearms ID card from NJ. Or is in possession of hollow point bullets which are illegal in NJ.

They WILL throw the book at you in NJ.
That's illegal under existing Federal laws, but some states (NJ incl.) just ignore the laws and do as they want. Hopefully someday they'll get taken to the cleaners by the NRA and it's members.
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There are mixed answers to this. In many states including Michigan it is illegal to travel with a loaded long gun in your vehicle. Others states don't care. I am not aware of a list about state by state laws this subject.

Note: FYI there are pistols available that shoot 410 shotgun shells.
Thanks for reply, but to be honest, with all the years in inclement weather and gray conditions hunting duck, I can pretty well load a shot gun in the dark and fast. Lol
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.......If you do need to shoot someone make sure to wet down the cadaver real good with pepper spray. Officer, I sprayed them with pepper spray and they just kept comming........ !

If you do that any investigator with half a brain will wonder how it is that the powder residue got under the pepper spray, and why none of the pepper spray got carried into the wounds by the bullets. Then you've got a whole lot more questions to answer.
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I found an article (will have to find my printed copy) that states Federal Law trumps any state law. That said, federal law allows you to transport a gun across any state, I would think that as long as you were "traveling" thru NJ that federal law would be applicable.

I have also read articles about the book being thrown at some one with a non registered gun in NJ.
Just a little comment on this. If I recall, there's a similar situation with towing two trailers. In other words, the Federal Government allows piggy-back towing, but many states do not. My understanding is that as long as the freight-hauler stays on Federal, interstate highways, he's legal, but if he gets off the interstate to get gas, he's then governed by state law. I'd think that the same thing would be applicable to Federal/State gun laws.
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Put it away in the living part of your RV and forget about it. cops are not going to stop you to see if you have weapons in states. And they cannot just pull you over and search your RV for weapons without getting a search warrant. All different rules when dealing with custom officers.
In WA the State Supreme court has ruled that an officer CAN search your vehicle "for officer safety" without a search warrant during a traffic stop.
I don't agree but that is the law here.
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Just a little comment on this. If I recall, there's a similar situation with towing two trailers. In other words, the Federal Government allows piggy-back towing, but many states do not. My understanding is that as long as the freight-hauler stays on Federal, interstate highways, he's legal, but if he gets off the interstate to get gas, he's then governed by state law. I'd think that the same thing would be applicable to Federal/State gun laws.
True, but what you or I think should be dowsn't matter. There are several states like NJ and NY in particular whose common practice is to arrest you anyway, throw you in jail, confiscate your firearms and let you try to prove your innocence in court ...and even if you win that part, it is typicall an even longer legal fight to get your firearms back.
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Kind of like Oregon, huh? I'm covered by HR218 but still cautious about carrying and storing firearms as are my family.
However, the grey area is, like mentioned, hollow points i.e weapons that hold more than 5 or 6 rounds even with HR218. Therefore I get qualified with both semi auto and revolver. Probably not a problem in home state, like mine of CA, but may be a problem in other states.
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If you do that any investigator with half a brain will wonder how it is that the powder residue got under the pepper spray, and why none of the pepper spray got carried into the wounds by the bullets. Then you've got a whole lot more questions to answer.

Thanks for the tip !
I'm thinkin' I'll need a whole lot more pepper spray !
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