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Old 06-25-2014, 09:40 AM   #1
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What a fantastic site. Just reading some of the posts, I can tell this is one friendly and helpful community. My wife and I just moved to western Pa. from NJ last July, and are looking for our first fifth wheel to do some extended trips. A very daunting task as there are so many makes and models. We are leaning to something in the 26-30' range as it is just the two of us and three cats.
We were initially thinking of a 2010-2014 Forest River or similar, but after finding this site, I am wondering if we should also be looking for an earlier higher end unit like an Excel or New Horizons. We have a 2004 F 250 Power Stroke Lariate Crew Cab, so there are some limitations to weight I have to consider.
Any thoughts from you all would be helpful for sure. Thanks
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Hi folks! Welcome to IRV2! It's great to have you join the gang!

Hope you find the right 5er for your needs. We pulled a Cedar Creek 36' 5er for 10 years before getting the MH in 2012. We loved it!

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you would have to upgrade tow vehicle for Excel or New Horizon (mdt/hdt territory). Excel some models 3500/350 trucks. Never seriously looked at Forest River units. can't comment on them.
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Excel Winslow has a 31'. It grosses 17500 with a 2390 pin weight. It will be heavy. It would be on the edge for a new 250 diesel.
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Welcome - there are lots of threads here with virtually the same topic. Check this one out and it will give you some ideas on how to determine the amount of trailer you can safely tow.

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Excel Winslow has a 31'. It grosses 17500 with a 2390 pin weight. It will be heavy. It would be on the edge for a new 250 diesel.
Thanks for the response. I found a 28' Excel with a dry weight of 9580 lb. and pin weight of 1860 lb. That appears to be close to the edge of what I would be comfortable towing and still be within my F 250's limits.
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Excel Winslow has a 31'. It grosses 17500 with a 2390 pin weight. It will be heavy. It would be on the edge for a new 250 diesel.
A DRV Mobile Suites is heavier than an Excel. I owned a 32tk3. It weighed by specs 12kish and pin around 2500. When we weighed it 16,900 and 4400 pin.
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I have not had one yet that weighed what is said. The current 5er states 13373 in the door and the Cat scales said 14000. At 20lb increments I will give Dutchmen the benefit and say it is 13981. So they were still off by around 70 gallons of water.
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Does anybody know what the pin weight maximum is for:
2009 Chevy 2500 diesel
crewcab 4x4
Not a dually
Also any suggestions on:
a good slider hitch and maximum length of a fiver for this vehicle?
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Does anybody know what the pin weight maximum is for:
2009 Chevy 2500 diesel
crewcab 4x4
Not a dually
Also any suggestions on:
a good slider hitch and maximum length of a fiver for this vehicle?

Didn't GM put a sticker on the jamb of the driver side door with the carrying capacity for the truck in 2009? Might be on the same sticker as the tire inflation. May be more than one sticker.

As for length; anything you like as long as you do not go over the weight carrying requirements.
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My 2003 F250 diesel crewcab is comparable to your tow vehicle, and it is rated for 13,200 tow capacity.

Unfortunately, many of the full size fifth wheel trailers exceed my towability substantially. We were wanting to go more toward a Big Horn/Montana type unit. They would be best suited for a Dual Rear Wheel 1 ton truck @ 13K weight dry and 2500-3000 lbs. dry tongue weight.

We really don't care to deal with dual rear wheels. I have a hard enough time pulling into a parking place with my crew cab.

We're now planning on buying a Grand Design Reflection mid size fifth wheel. They're more suited for a 3/4 ton pickup.
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We really don't care to deal with dual rear wheels. I have a hard enough time pulling into a parking place with my crew cab.
The duals are not that bad, you just fit between the lines on left and right and do not worry about hanging over the back.
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