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Old 05-04-2013, 07:28 PM   #1
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5th wheel hitch

Hi everyone. I'm brand new to this and 5th wheel towing. I have a 6'6 box on my silverado and have to put a hitch in it. Cost is important so don't want anything more than I need and will probably install myself. Just how often is the slider necessary to activate? Do I need an auto slider? Any input would be helpful.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:42 PM   #2
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When I had a fifth wheel I started with just the basic forward and backward tilt hitch. I then bought a short box truck and upgraded to a manual slider with the double pivot head. It was worth every penny spent. Easier to hook up in a uneven spot and the manual slider worked fine for the amount of times I had to use it.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:50 PM   #3
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I have a manual slider but with the new cut corner angle of my new Cruiser so far I din't need to use it
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:34 PM   #4
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Cost is important but so is safety and getting everything you need. RVs are not cheap, so don't get in that mindset.
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That's what I'd do. About as basic as you can get, but getting what you need too.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:45 PM   #5
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Look at Curt hitches. Try amazon for good pricing. Don't know if you NEED a slider, but Curt has both types. I have had mine for 2 years now and love it.
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:01 PM   #6
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I have a small fifth wheel that was towed by a half ton Chevy with no slide. I have the same hitch as him and it works great for what I need. I have an RBW lil rocker. Good little hitch. Looking at a comparison hitch it is really similar to the Curt E-5.

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Old 05-04-2013, 10:31 PM   #7
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i have a 6'6" bed and my Columbus has the notches in the nose to prevent hitting the cab of the truck. But I still put in a PullRight SuperGlide the extra peace of mind is more then worth extra money. I do not have to remember to get out and pull the lever. the hitch dose it for me.
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I have a manual slider. I used it a few times with my previous fiver, just to be safe. Haven't had to use it with my Columbus as the front cap design is better.
It is better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:31 PM   #9
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With a 6'6" bed you might not need a slider as long at the FW has the cut-out notches. Trying to make that determination ahead of buying a hitch or the FW could be a problem. But if you end up getting one, keep in mind the SuperGlides are great but expensive and very heavy compared to other hitches.
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This is not intended as a slam, but think about the money you have tied up in the truck and trailer. Think about the cost of just one truck cab to RV front repair because you either did not have or forgot to use your manual slider. I towed a Titanium designed for short box trucks with a F350 Short Box. I installed a Pullrite Superglide so that I would never have to worry about the bad possibilities again. Compared to the total cost of the rig, the hitch is very small - even a really good hitch. Just my 2 cents.
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Just how often is the slider necessary to activate?
Never, as long as the transmission is in Drive or other forward gear. But always when you put the tow vehicle in reverse gear. You can jackknife the trailer in a heartbeat when trying to back into a camping spot. And you often need to jackknife 90 to get into some spots.

I towed a 5er with a shorty pickup without a slider hitch for a few months. I had nightmares about driving up a long crooked narrow trail that dead ended with no place to turn around. That's no big problem if you can jackknife the trailer a full 90. Back the trailer into a 90 jackknife, then unhook and drive around to the other side, back into the hitch at 90, hook up and go.

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Do I need an auto slider?
Not if you're a bright guy that can remember to always slide the hitch before you back the trailer. But the SuperGlide is a wonderful thing for peace of mind about forgetting to slide the hitch before you back up. It's sorta like cruise control. You can drive without it, but I would hate to have to make the 2,000 mile trip to my granddaughter's house without cruise control. And I would not want to tow a 5er with a shorty pickup without a SuperGlide hitch.
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The direction of travel has nothing to do with the need to have your slider hitch moved back. It is the angle from the tow vehicle to the trailer that will create damage, not the direction.

I have a pullrite superglide 16K and I know there would have been damage if I had had a manual unit. It is too easy to get complacent and then crank the wheel hard when maneuvering. They do come with a pretty good price tag though.
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The direction of travel has nothing to do with the need to have your slider hitch moved back. It is the angle from the tow vehicle to the trailer that will create damage, not the direction.
You're half right. It is the angle from the tow vehicle to the trailer that will create damage. But very few tow vehicles can turn sharp enough when going forward to make enough angle to result in cab-to-trailer contact. However, when you put that puppy in reverse you can have a crash in a heartbeat, because the rig can back into a 90 or more jackknife before you can say Hey!
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You can turn the same angle going forward as backward. It is simple geometry. I (and anyone else) can turn the tow vehicle at 90 degrees to the trailer and skid the trailer tires sideways as you turn going FORWARD. You are turning a circle with its center between the axles of the trailer and it won't harm your trailer with the right hitch.

The problem is the corner of the trailer impinging on the back of the cab. It isn't jackknifing that is the common problem, just the trailer busting out the rear window. If you are dumb enough to keep going when you see the side of the trailer coming towards your truck you should be recreating an a rest home.
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