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Old 03-04-2016, 07:07 PM   #15
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I have a B&W Companion. I have no chucking. I added the Centerpoint Air Ride to the trailer to improve the ride of the trailer which then provides a smoother ride in the truck. I can leave things on the counter in the trailer and they barely move. The Anderson is a fine hitch, but it won't make the trailer ride smoother.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:39 PM   #16
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I can't say for sure, but there are lots of folks on here that either currently have "chucking" or have spent allot of money to get rid of it.

I am no scientific rocket, but you may have just answered your own question. If the higher cost hitch solutions inherently have the slop that you are referring to, then wouldn't they be the source of the problems?
I understand the difference between chucking and slop. So FYI chucking is the pushing and pulling that occurs between the truck and fiver as each react to road surface variations at different times. This effect can be minimized by better suspension (truck and/or trailer) and better isolation between the two with those expensive hitches and pin boxes and of course better roads and lower speeds. This is very similar to driving a single vehicle on a washboard road. Speed makes a big difference and each vehicle acts differently. The slop in a hitch doesn't cause chucking, it just creates noise as the truck and trailer move independently either due to chucking, braking or accelerating. And as I stated, these forces between truck and trailer are going to be the same magnitude regardless of hitch type. The Andersen has no isolation so forces are instantaneous, the slop in standard setups result in delayed forces, and those expensive setups actually cushion the forces (more or less).

The Andersen Ultimate is probably the best ball mount solution for fifth wheel towing when a GN is absolutely necessary, but few of us need to tow GN units. Otherwise, like every other option it has it's +'s and -'s.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:51 PM   #17
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I understand the difference between chucking and slop. So FYI chucking is the pushing and pulling that occurs between the truck and fiver as each react to road surface variations at different times. This effect can be minimized by better suspension (truck and/or trailer) and better isolation between the two with those expensive hitches and pin boxes and of course better roads and lower speeds. This is very similar to driving a single vehicle on a washboard road. Speed makes a big difference and each vehicle acts differently. The slop in a hitch doesn't cause chucking, it just creates noise as the truck and trailer move independently either due to chucking, braking or accelerating. And as I stated, these forces between truck and trailer are going to be the same magnitude regardless of hitch type. The Andersen has no isolation so forces are instantaneous, the slop in standard setups result in delayed forces, and those expensive setups actually cushion the forces (more or less).

The Andersen Ultimate is probably the best ball mount solution for fifth wheel towing when a GN is absolutely necessary, but few of us need to tow GN units. Otherwise, like every other option it has it's +'s and -'s.

Great explanation! Thanks for taking the time to respond.

By the way... Forums are not the easiest way to communicate, so please know that the discussion is all in good spirit!
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:03 PM   #18
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I installed Lippert Centerpoint Air Ride Suspension on my 5th wheel. $1250 from Tweety's. Greatly improved the ride of the 5th wheel. Easy install.
Center Point Suspension Kit - Double Axle

I also have a Demco Glide Ride pin box. The ride in the truck is nice.
Our 5er also has centerpoint air ride and a demco glide ride pin box. This is our first 5er and I still wonder what this chucking thing is everyone complains about.
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Not saying everyone has chucking. Most do though. Tow for say 1k miles. You are sole from waist up. Feel as though you have been in a fight. This is chucking.
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We have the B&W companion and a standard Lippert pin box and a bad back and neck. Everything is fine when speed and vigilance is in place, no chucking. Although it does seem that our 5th could use some shocks as things move around from location to location.
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