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07-18-2016, 12:16 AM
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6 point leveling
Does such a system typically lift some or all of the trailer weight from the axles?
Also, is it an active system? If somehow some ground gave way under one jack would it try to extend or just stay until you levelled again?
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07-18-2016, 04:47 AM
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Auto leveling is typically designed to take some of the weight off the axles. However, in manual mode or if the site is far enough off level in auto mode (and with blocking under the jacks), I can easily lift the tires on one side off the ground. I've never tried lifting the whole thing because it seems it could be pretty unstable.
If you leave the keypad on after leveling (either auto or manual), it will time out and shut itself down after a few minutes so it will not re-level if something changes.
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07-18-2016, 06:01 PM
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I have had my 5th wheel with all 4 tires off the ground and it did it by itself. However, since I did had not lowered the nose before going into auto-level mode, so that was the systems point of reference. What I did was to retract the back 4 jacks and then lowered the nose down about 2 - 2.5" and start all over again. It then found a very level and much lower location. As for asking it to auto level after it is set up, sorry but that won't happen. The electronics time out and shut off once the leveling is complete.
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07-19-2016, 04:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheToads
I have had my 5th wheel with all 4 tires off the ground and it did it by itself. However, since I did had not lowered the nose before going into auto-level mode, so that was the systems point of reference...
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The LevelUp system on our 5th wheel automatically lowers the nose several inches at the start of the auto level program so the trailer doesn't end up too high. The only thing is you have to be sure to pull the truck ALL the way out from under the trailer before you start leveling to make sure there is no chance of the trailer hitting the bed.
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07-19-2016, 08:38 AM
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Personally, I don't like it when our "Lippert" system raises the tires off the ground. Seems to me its more stable (and easier on the jacks) to have a little weight left on the 4 tires....
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07-20-2016, 07:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheToads
I have had my 5th wheel with all 4 tires off the ground and it did it by itself. However, since I did had not lowered the nose before going into auto-level mode, so that was the systems point of reference. What I did was to retract the back 4 jacks and then lowered the nose down about 2 - 2.5" and start all over again. It then found a very level and much lower location. As for asking it to auto level after it is set up, sorry but that won't happen. The electronics time out and shut off once the leveling is complete.
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This may be a fault in your system. The "nose dive" and failure to level happen with Bigfoot due to a computer / wiring fault. It needs a 20a switch added inline to correct it. I found info about it on another forum.
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07-20-2016, 07:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey
Personally, I don't like it when our "Lippert" system raises the tires off the ground. Seems to me its more stable (and easier on the jacks) to have a little weight left on the 4 tires....
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I was told lifting wheels off the ground is not safe and is a fault in programming. May need to recalibrate. When my auto level lifts wheels, I just manually lower them.
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07-20-2016, 09:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paz
The LevelUp system on our 5th wheel automatically lowers the nose several inches at the start of the auto level program so the trailer doesn't end up too high. The only thing is you have to be sure to pull the truck ALL the way out from under the trailer before you start leveling to make sure there is no chance of the trailer hitting the bed.
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How do you get the truck out before leveling? Put the front jacks down first? Newb here.
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07-20-2016, 09:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Squantobon
How do you get the truck out before leveling? Put the front jacks down first? Newb here.
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Yes. Lower the front landing gear on the 4 or the 6 point system. I like to take most of the weight off the hitch before unhooking. You can then press auto-level and let it do its thing or you can manually lower the nose some and then auto-level from there.
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07-21-2016, 06:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Squantobon
How do you get the truck out before leveling? Put the front jacks down first? Newb here.
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Yes, just like Gigattime said. Use the front jacks to take the weight off the hitch, pull the lever on the hitch, disconnect umbilical and breakaway, then pull out from under the trailer.
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07-28-2016, 03:06 PM
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My system, in auto level mode, will first operate the landing gear to level the trailer from front to back. Once that is complete, it starts to level from side to side. If I am too far off pitch, the system will not level. It tells me I am too far off pitch and a light blinks on what side needs to be raised. However, in manual mode, I can use the leveling jacks to raise the wheels and place blocks under them to get the pitch closer. Then hit auto level again and I'm good to go.
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08-01-2016, 09:33 PM
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My unit lowers the front first then starts to level the coach. If your jacks lift the wheels off the ground then you probably are very unlevel to start with. It's best to put a couple of blocks under the jacks that are the furtherest distance from the ground before you start which seems to be in the rear on mine before you start so that your jacks don't have to extend to far. The further you extend the jacks , the more your coach becomes unstable.
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