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Old 03-10-2015, 09:47 PM   #15
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There is a long story on this--I asked Roadmaster if they could fit a 450 and was told it would, "as they have installed them before on 450s" The shop I was using was a regular installer of the units, and they advertise them in the office--this is where I picked up on them and made the decision to try them, after being assured by Roadmaster that it would work. Well, after 2 separate tries, it would not fit my truck. The spring eye is too large for the hook bracket to securely fit around--difficulty in getting the bracket on and then it would pop off at the least movement. Long story short--no, they cannot fit an '08-'10 F450. I was out only about 6 hours time, but the shop was out about 4 hours of their labor--don't know how that will be settled.
It sounds good, looks good, but just won't work on one of the 'real' 450s. Don't consider it.
Well, on to AirLift or RideRite, maybe Tofklift even.
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I tried the torklift solution, killed the ride when not carrying a load. I have air bags on my F250 and it really smoothed out the ride.
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Like everyone has already said, the air bags will allow you a lot more adjustability and ride comfort versus springs. Let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything I can help you out with.
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:45 PM   #17
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Thanks for all the input, everyone. To answer some of your questions, the truck is almost brand-new, so the springs aren't worn out. It is the 2500 HD Crew Cab 4x4 with the Z71 off road package, trailer package, etc. It's listed spec's indicate that the trailer is well within the towing capability of the truck.
I am planning on installing a set of Air Lift bags sometime this summer to allow me to re-align the headlights when the trailer is on.
If I remember, I'll update this thread sometime in the future to let you know if people are still flashing their lights at me.

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Thanks for all the input, everyone. To answer some of your questions, the truck is almost brand-new, so the springs aren't worn out. It is the 2500 HD Crew Cab 4x4 with the Z71 off road package, trailer package, etc. It's listed spec's indicate that the trailer is well within the towing capability of the truck.
I am planning on installing a set of Air Lift bags sometime this summer to allow me to re-align the headlights when the trailer is on.
If I remember, I'll update this thread sometime in the future to let you know if people are still flashing their lights at me.

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If your sits so low with the load on it that the headlights shine high I would advise more truck.

4K+ pin weight in pic with no bags. This is how a fully loaded truck should ride and the headlights are fine at this level.

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Looks like butt squat in the picture to me.....
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:18 AM   #20
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Looks like butt squat in the picture to me.....
If sitting level is butt squat then I guess you are right.
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All these pictures of new Dodges look like butt squat to me and all the owners say not. Koolaide?
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Some squat on a stock, non-air Ram 3500 drw. I've been drinking the Dodge/Ram CTD kool-aid for a long time, and ya know what? I wouldn't have it any other way.
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At least you admit it.....
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Yeah I do, and I would love to see another pickup manufactures truck, that could top mine with the same weight.
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To me by observing the new trucks they are short one spring ply. If I bought a new truck I would drive to a spring shop and put proper amount of spring plies.
My XL F250 had 1 more stock ply then my friend's Lauriat leather seats F350. And when he loads his 5er the rear drops.
They sell a smooth riding truck and forget to tell the owner that.
It's common for me to observe this on most of the Big 3 SD truck from the 3/4 tons to the 1 tons SRWs and DRWs.
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Extra spring would stiffen the empty ride. Air bags/springs is a smoother ride choice.
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Yeah I do, and I would love to see another pickup manufactures truck, that could top mine with the same weight.
Fact is these RAM's look about the same if the pin is 3K or 4K.
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If the spring shop does it right the empty and loaded ride is improved. I have that with 2 extra ply on each side. All truck spring plies are setup for gradual loading. With 7 plies each side only 2 plies support when empty and when loaded they keep the load of the top of housing plate. I found that if this plate gets loaded it creates a buckboard ride. So to protect and improve ride the spring plies need to be of the plate. I call it a plate because it's very stiff and loaded to much it will permanently bend and lower the ride of a loaded truck. I see many trucks hauling RVs loading this plate causing a stiff ride and harder on tires. And that includes duallies.
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