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Old 05-23-2016, 08:58 PM   #1
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Andersen Ultimate Rail Mount Hitch at 2000 miles

I replaced my Reese 16K at the beginning of the season with the steel Andersen Ultimate rail mount version. First the only bad news: the Andersen ball at its lowest setting is about 1.5 inches higher than the Reese. My Reese has about the lowest settings available on any hitches I've specked. The fiver was perfectly level with the Reese and is now a little nose high.
That said, it is not nose high enough to bother me or cause problems. It connects and disconnects very easily. It rides without chucking, but porpoising is still apparent on concrete section roads in places like Pennsylvania. Better yet, it weighs only 42 pounds vs the approximately 100 lbs of the Reese. With my short (6.75 feet) bed, I installed the Andersen with the ball to the rear. I mounted the adapter with the hole behind the pin because I'd had a clearance issue with the sides of the beds because of the long pin box. With the Reese hitch, I was close to contact with both the cab and box sides at about 105 degrees of turn.
This weekend the Andersen got the Ultimate test. I had to make a u-turn in a parking lot to line up for my campsite. At about 100 degrees, I got out and checked the clearance and it was looking good. At 95 degrees I checked again and it was apparent that I could make 90 degrees if needed. So I am very pleased with this hitch and my back thanks me.
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Old 05-24-2016, 04:53 AM   #2
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You can't beat Andersen Hitches. I have the Weight Distribution Hitch. It's fantastic! Love this hitch.
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Old 05-24-2016, 07:32 AM   #3
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SkiSmuggs,
Wondering about your description of degrees in a turn--can't see how you can turn to 100 degrees, and how if you can make it to 100 (10d past right angle) why you would be concerned about 95 and 90.
Any fiver at 100 degrees of turn is past a right angle and would almost always be in contact with the truck cab.
Does the Andersen allow turns past 90 degrees, even to 100 degrees? That would be awesome, except for punishing the trailer tires.
Confused, I am.
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SkiSmuggs,
Wondering about your description of degrees in a turn--can't see how you can turn to 100 degrees, and how if you can make it to 100 (10d past right angle) why you would be concerned about 95 and 90.
Any fiver at 100 degrees of turn is past a right angle and would almost always be in contact with the truck cab.
Does the Andersen allow turns past 90 degrees, even to 100 degrees? That would be awesome, except for punishing the trailer tires.
Confused, I am.
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I think he's using the other half of the protractor when describing his angles, 100 degrees still being obtuse.
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SkiSmuggs,
Wondering about your description of degrees in a turn--can't see how you can turn to 100 degrees, and how if you can make it to 100 (10d past right angle) why you would be concerned about 95 and 90.
Any fiver at 100 degrees of turn is past a right angle and would almost always be in contact with the truck cab.
Does the Andersen allow turns past 90 degrees, even to 100 degrees? That would be awesome, except for punishing the trailer tires.
Confused, I am.
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I figured this would confuse some as I've seen the turns described as 75 degrees, etc
But as we turn we close on 90 degrees from straight which is 180 degrees the angle diminishes from 180 to 90. Make a 45 degree with your thumb and forefinger then open it up to 90. At 45 degrees the truck and trailer would be getting close to parallel or jacknife. So what some call 80 degrees, I think is 100 degrees or 10 degrees greater than a right angle.
In discussing with my DW, she pointed out that most are talking about the truck's change of direction from zero. So 45 degrees would be halfway to 90, even though the angle of the truck to trailer is 135.
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Got it, thanks. 360d can be 360 or 0, depending on your practices. Most everyone I have visited with over this starts at truck/trailer straight as 0, and then the turn angle left or right goes towards 90, describing the area/angle between the two vehicles. Just needed to think this thru.
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Got it, thanks. 360d can be 360 or 0, depending on your practices. Most everyone I have visited with over this starts at truck/trailer straight as 0, and then the turn angle left or right goes towards 90, describing the area/angle between the two vehicles. Just needed to think this thru.
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Yeah, me too! I like DW's explanation the best and it is easiest to calculate. And making a left or right turn is 90 degrees in any case.
I was talking about the angle formed by the relationship of truck and trailer in my original post
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Yeah, me too! I like DW's explanation the best and it is easiest to calculate. And making a left or right turn is 90 degrees in any case.
I was talking about the angle formed by the relationship of truck and trailer in my original post
Thanks for the comments on your Andersen Ultimate!!

It's amazing how confusing it gets when you follow classic Geometry terminology!!
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Just checked Bash.net to once again see the latest Andersen thread closed because they haven't learned to stop feeding the trolls. Sigh! This is a much nicer place to be.
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Just checked Bash.net to once again see the latest Andersen thread closed because they haven't learned to stop feeding the trolls. Sigh! This is a much nicer place to be.
Ski,

I have noticed that every Andersen topic in the fifth wheel section over there is closed by the same moderator and that this moderator seems to have a kinship with a certain prolific Andersen hitch basher. As soon as this basher is called out on his unsupprted claims about this hitch (which by the way, he does not own), the thread is immediatly closed.
Andersen topics in the tow vehicle section with a different moderator don't seem to meet the same fate.
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Can someone point me to this "bash site"? I enjoy reading misled opinions on this topic!
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Can someone point me to this "bash site"? I enjoy reading misled opinions on this topic!
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