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Old 11-17-2013, 03:06 AM   #29
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I would not include any Heartland product in your list. They do not make their own frames and have had many problems inspite of their meteoric rise in volume. They make good lipstick but poor bones.
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We purchase a Lifestyle RV for several reasons, one it is warranted for full time use. Check the manufacturers warranty as many specifically state the warranty does not apply when used full time.
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:32 AM   #31
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We are in the process of purchasing a Holiday Rambler Presidential, Washington Model. We currently full time in a motor home and were looking for a fifth wheel because we will be sitting more and traveling less. Our main criteria was a residential refrigerator... we'd seen the disastrous remnants of defective RV refrigerators. We have one in our motor home, and it was offered in the Presidential we selected. The Presidential is intended for full time use and appears to be a well designed and constructed unit.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:27 AM   #32
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I would not include any Heartland product in your list. They do not make their own frames and have had many problems inspite of their meteoric rise in volume. They make good lipstick but poor bones.
They make more then 100 unit per year and the frames have been greatly accepted and any problems have been well supported by the manufacturer.

More then I can say about my previous high end unit. They went out of business due to many claims of inferior axles and frame strenght like mine had.

I bought my Heartland because it had the best axles and frame system I had seen and in 5 years of ownership I can actually enjoy the strenght of it.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:40 AM   #33
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cassiel, I am happy that you are pleased with your Heartland product with 5 years of RV experience under your belt. I have been Rving since 1984 and have owned everything except a class B and a truck camper.

Lippert has way less than a sterling history with frames, axles and leveling system. As a retired engineer, I still look at the bones of a trailer. If it does not have a good foundation, it will be problems down the road.

There are a lot of "happy" owners out there with their Heartland RVs. One fellow I know is on his second Heartland and has had frame issues on both that required a trip back to the factory. They did step up and provide a "fix" (patch) for it so he was happy.

Personally, I would not include any heartland or Thor product in the class of a full-time RV. They are just a bit weak in the foundation department, but that is just my opinion and everyone has one.

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Old 11-24-2013, 10:50 AM   #34
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He says 5yrs of ownership, nothing about total rv experience!!
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Depends a lot on where you will be going geographically. If you going into cold areas, skiing, you need a very good insulated unit. If you stay in deep south it isn't near as important. I personally have not found a rv manufacturer that do a better job insulating that DRV. Talking to a large dealer in Minnesota yesterday he committed on customers trading Redwoods, Trilogys, for DRVs due to the insulation.
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There are several fine unit that can be used for fulltiming just do your research and get what works for you.

Our choice was New Horizons.. Great units, built with fulltimers in mind. Custom built from the ground up with a frame strong enough to hang a Goldwing off the back.
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If you going into cold areas, skiing, you need a very good insulated unit. If you stay in deep south it isn't near as important.
I'm not so sure about that. I can keep it cold enough to hang meat in our Mobile Suites on a 100+ degF Texas day with no shade - NOT the case with our previous lesser-insulated 5th wheels. Insulation works against heat just as much as cold.

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I'm not so sure about that. I can keep it cold enough to hang meat in our Mobile Suites on a 100+ degF Texas day with no shade - NOT the case with our previous lesser-insulated 5th wheels. Insulation works against heat just as much as cold.

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Rusty yours and mine both were built before DRV cared a lot about insulation. They do an excellent job now. I have complete wall void of insulation above window. Called factory and he acknowledged this.
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Ummmm....OK, but I wasn't complaining about the insulation on mine. I haven't tried it in sub-zero temperatures, but from the 20s to 110 degF, it's been just fine.

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We're full timing in our Heartland Big Horn & are pleased with the quality of construction as well as the extra insulation & heating strips with the Yeti option. We could have chosen a more expensive 5er but chose our 3670 after several years of research. I'm sure we all have our personal preferences. This one, in our opinion, is the best for us.

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I have been in sub zero with mine. -3 t0 12. Didn't use a ton of propane like others do. We did use a portable electrical heater to supplement. Could not sit next to window on slide. I recently removed that window to reseal it.( It had tar running down glass). there was no insulation upper or lower. It does now. Also I drilled a hole for a antenna cable penetration in the wall between the slide with entertainment above window and it is void of insulation. this is when i called factory.
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We're full timing in our Heartland Big Horn & are pleased with the quality of construction as well as the extra insulation & heating strips with the Yeti option. We could have chosen a more expensive 5er but chose our 3670 after several years of research. I'm sure we all have our personal preferences. This one, in our opinion, is the best for us.

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I really looked hard at the Landmark by Heartland. they use the white foam insulation. Would be much better if they used blue dow. Not wide body either. They have excellent factory support. I am going to get a larger unit soon and this is why I researching them. Will likely get another DRV though. They are a much better built unit. Not downing Heartland. They are about 20% higher in cost also.
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