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Old 05-06-2015, 04:33 PM   #1
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Anybody got any ideas?

Newcomer here, just posted my "newcomer" post a couple of days ago, and I have a real problem I need help with! I own an F350 dually diesel, that I installed an underbed gooseneck hitch on in 2007. I don't use that hitch much anymore, but have two gooseneck trailers, so don't want to lose it. We just purchased a beautiful little 25' Alpenlite 5th wheel (1985 - antique?). Went looking for a gooseneck adapter. This truck had the mounting brackets on it for a gooseneck, previous owner I guess, but I had to remove them to install the goose neck hitch. Crawled under and looked - no way to install a 5th wheel with the existing hitch. Bought the Curt X5 adapter from Amazon. It was delivered today, and of course doesn't fit. I called Curt, and they don't make anything that will fit my hitch (hide-a-goose), but said it was made by drawtite. Called them, and when I gave them the model number of my hitch,
he informed me that it had been obsolete or over 15 yrs, was obsolete when I bought it, and of course the co. that sold it to me is defunct. Of course they don't make anything that will fit it either. I have a son that is a welder fabricator, many certifications, and I'm sure he can modify this thing, but I sure hate to start modifying a $350 adapter. Anybody got any ideas?
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Old 05-06-2015, 07:15 PM   #2
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Check out B & W. They have gooseneck setups that a fifth wheel hitch attaches to.
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Are you going to pull the 5er with a gooseneck set up? Or want to have both a gooseneck and fifth wheel hitch? If you want both then B&W has the setup.BTW...pulling a 5er with a gooseneck adapter is not a good idea. Severe frame damage can occur.
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Obviously, you've done some research.

You can install a fifth wheel to GN adapter on the Alpenlite, and make it a GN. I wouldn't. It wasn't designed for it.

Which fifth wheel hitch mounting system did you look at? There are many out there, some might fit around what you have.

Basically, whatever you do (other than install the GN adapter on the RV), makes it pointless to keep the old GN hitch that is in the truck. If you install Industry Standard hitch Rails, you can pin GN and 5th wheel hitches to the rails. If you install a B&W GN hitch and Companion hitch, you'll have both. So on and so forth.

Without seeing what you have right now and how it's mounted, we are just guessing as to what you can use. I can tell you for sure though, that a B&W will NOT work with what you have. Any brand rail kit needs brackets to the frame. Any "custom" fit brackets to your make and model will probably not fit with your current GN setup. The only one that might work would be the Reese 30035 install kit, which is the universal bracket kit.
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I am also an Old Man just like the OP. Therefore I'm not quite sure that I follow the problem. If he has a Gooseneck Ball in the bed, All he needs to do is use the Andersen Hitch. Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection That's what I'm using and it is only 32 lbs.

If I didn't follow the problem correctly, I apoligize.
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I am also an Old Man just like the OP. Therefore I'm not quite sure that I follow the problem. If he has a Gooseneck Ball in the bed, All he needs to do is use the Andersen Hitch. Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection That's what I'm using and it is only 32 lbs.

If I didn't follow the problem correctly, I apoligize.

I love ours, but it weighs slightly more than 32 lbs. - more like 70 lbs.
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Thanks for the advice

Let me describe my setup a little better. The gooseneck hitch is an underbed frame mount, built by Draw-Tite, called Hide-a-Goose, rated at 30K#. Reading all the posts regarding possible frame damage with an adapter, I opted for a Curt X5, which I a 100# monster, complete with rails that sets on the floor of the truck with a square pin that drops into the gooseneck hitch, drilled to accept the locking pin located in the fender well. Rated at 20K#, it is a well made unit, I'm impressed by the design and quality, however, the square shank is much too long, and the hole is drilled in the wrong place. The
part of the pin that fits in the socket on mine is 3" long, with the lock hole centered. The adapter pin is 5" long, with the hole centered. Phone calls to Curt and Draw-Tite reveal that neither one make an adapter to fit my hitch. Draw-Tite told me that my hitch was discontinued 15 years ago - I bought it new in 2007.
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Anderson hitch

Looked at the Anderson Ultimate, and it looks like it has a ball on top - I need the hitch plate (5th wheel) on top.
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From what I read what you have should work, you may have to adjust the hitch part that goes though you're bed.
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Looked at the Anderson Ultimate, and it looks like it has a ball on top - I need the hitch plate (5th wheel) on top.
You buy two pieces.

This goes on the king pin -

Then the in bed piece -
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And the King Pin piece is included with the bed piece.
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Not sure if B&W Companion will work with other ball hitch setups or not. I recently bought an F350 dually with the turn over ball hitch and didn't want to put a gooseneck adapter on my 5th wheel so I opted for the Companion hitch. It's quiet and built very well.
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Just to clarify, the Andersen hitch does not void the trailer warranty where a gooseneck conversion (on the trailer) in almost all circumstances would, also the Andersen hitch has a higher tow and weight rating than the B&W Companion hitch.
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You should be able to modify the square pin that is too long to fit your hitch--should not hurt the strength enough to matter.
Figure out where the locking pin hits the longer shank while in the hole with the hitch--then get a new hole drilled and cut off the extra length. At least, from your details, that is what I would do. The shank/ball on my B&W is rated at 35K and doubt you could hurt it with an extra hole.
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