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Old 07-13-2016, 09:05 AM   #1
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Auto level - Elect vs Hyd.

Looking at several new 5th wheels in 30ft to 36ft range.
I want auto level, but some have 4 point some have 6 point.
Some are electric and others hydraulic.

What system do you have and how do you like it? I've had hyd. before on a 40ft Cardinal but don't know anything about the electric system or it's day to day operation.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:23 AM   #2
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4 or 6 point, what makes the difference is the lifting capacity of the individual points not whether it is 4 or 6 points. Elec or hydraulic, hydraulic is heavier and more expensive because of all the components and faster operating, so elec lighter and slower. It basically boils down to what you want. I give credit for what I present to a couple of very good service managers who will talk to me outside the confines of the dealership.
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That is a loaded question. When I had my LDT I sure thought those electric jacks were slow. But I had to raise them way up to unhook. Since I got the HDT it is a non issue. HDT has air ride suspension and it's ride height don't change. Believe this is true also of new LDT with air ride suspension. Very little use of jacks now. Electric are cheap and easy to work/replace when needed. Plenty of posts with problems on hydraulic. Jacks leaking down, etc. Not downing them, had it on DRV. I never a problem. If I was shopping and it had or not had auto leveling would not sway me either way.
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Old 07-13-2016, 10:41 AM   #4
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We are new to auto jacks, but so far the only thing I don't like about our Lippert electric jacks is I've found it wants (and does) raise one or two wheels totally off the ground,, when it is Totally Not nessesarry... Now I just do it manually with the buttons... I figure if the trailer is fairly level, and the jacks are stabilizing the trailer (5th wheel) we are good...
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So I shouldn't shy away from a trailer just because it has electric instead of hydraulic levelers?

I definitely want auto level, and don't really care which system as long as it does the job in a "reasonable" amount of time. If hyd. leveled it in 2-3 min and elect. in 3-4 min that's OK.
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My 6pt hydraulic levels the th in about 30-45 seconds tops. I have not experienced a leak down yet. I've seen others with electric and they r much slower for sure. Don't know how much they can lift, but I'm sure it's adequate for the job. I think the lippert 6pt level up can lift 50k lbs if I read correctly somewhere.
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Have 6 point hydraulic and it works great.
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If you search around the forums, you'll find discussions on various jack systems. What I remember is the electric systems are made as primarily stabilizing systems and you'll find those as mostly 4-point. They "may" lift the wheels up, but not their intention. The hydraulic, auto levelers are mostly 6-point and made to lift wheels off the ground if need be. I can't comment on the leakage and/or issues with hydraulics. Our 14K Stoneridge 5vr has electrics.
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Our Big Foot is hydraulic and 4 point. Each leveler can lift 17K and each leveler can work independently. The first time we used it we were scared silly because it moves so fast.
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We have the Lippert four-point system and really like it. I don't know if its fast or slow because its the first we've had so there's nothing to compare to. But, I also don't stand and watch it do its thing. I press the auto-level button and go about doing other things. The system does its thing while I do mine. Very convenient and won't buy another without an auto-level.
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I have a 6 pt hyd lippert on a 13 Cardinal and have had no issues . Some situations require you to use manual if the angle is to steep then the auto cannot get it right. A rare instance but easy to do. front jacks will hold 11,000 2 remaining 8,000 each .
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Seems to me a 6 point system is needed only for a very big trailer or if the jacks are not the strongest. Similar to a 3 axle trailer. I'd rather have 2 stronger axles than 3 lighter ones. Likewise I prefer 4 strong hydraulic jacks to 6 weak ones. My trailer has Bigfoot 4 point system and I couldn't be happier.
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Seems to me a 6 point system is needed only for a very big trailer or if the jacks are not the strongest. Similar to a 3 axle trailer. I'd rather have 2 stronger axles than 3 lighter ones. Likewise I prefer 4 strong hydraulic jacks to 6 weak ones. My trailer has Bigfoot 4 point system and I couldn't be happier.

That mainly depends on the frame. We have the BigFoot as well and are very happy with it.


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